[Reader-list] shuddhabratas response

Iram Ghufran iram at sarai.net
Thu Mar 1 17:38:30 IST 2007


Dear Emma,

You should have thought of that before you make statements like - "Even 
pimps have more dignity than some Bong men, some Bong men like you!" on 
a public list.

Anyway, I do hope your anxieties regarding list 'moderation' are satisfied.

Best
Iram


emma d wrote:
> Get a life man! Is there any point in going on and on about Shuddha's 
> response to Jogis' posting! Seriously, get a life! Besides, I 
> certainly believe you ought to re-read Shuddha's response entirely 
> again, wherein he expresses how he "understands" that weirdo's 
> response to Jogi's crazed posting!
>   The end? Amen?
>   On 3/1/07, *Iram Ghufran* <iram at sarai.net <mailto:iram at sarai.net>> 
> wrote:
>
>     Emma,
>
>     I think you are confusing issues.
>
>     A)  "don't you have anyone to fuck"  is not a nice thing to say to
>     anyone but these sentiments were expressed in a personal mail by
>     Abhik.
>     I chose not to comment on those.
>
>     B) "awaiting moderator's approval" is an AUTOMATED response to
>     TECHNICAL
>     glitches. As far as I know, it has nothing to do with the content
>     of the
>     mail (unless there are attachments)
>
>     I think you need to read posting protocols again. They have been
>     sent on
>     this list before and I will forward them to you in a separate mail.
>
>     C) By the way, I think Shuddhabrata's response did express concerns
>     regarding Abhik's unfortunate statement to Vedavati's provocative
>     statement. You should read it again.
>
>     "Let me clarify at the very beginning that I find the contents of the
>     exchange between Vedavati and Abhit (which we have all been
>     subjected to because of Vedavati's forward, with comment, of
>     Abhik's off list email to her) sad and deplorable. While Abhik's
>     language betrays an
>     unfortunate misogyny, Vedavati's postings and responses are not
>     exactly exemplars of liberality and tolerance."
>
>     Best
>     Iram
>
>     emma d wrote:
>     > Dear Iram,   It would have been nice if you could have expressed
>     > similar concerns when the "don't you have anyone to fuck" first
>     > appeared on the list! Where did the "awaiting moderator's approval"
>     > thingy disappear then!   Emma
>     >
>     >   On 3/1/07, *Iram Ghufran* <iram at sarai.net
>     <mailto:iram at sarai.net> <mailto:iram at sarai.net
>     <mailto:iram at sarai.net>>>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >     Dear list members,
>     >     Please refrain from making personal/ individual statements
>     regrading
>     >     other list members and communities on this forum. The reader
>     list
>     >     is a
>     >     non moderated public list. And I guess thats where the challenge
>     >     lies -
>     >     How do we - as members of this list (of more than 1200 people)
>     >     exercise
>     >     our freedom of speech? How will our speech acts be
>     remembered by the
>     >     archives of this list and read/ understood by people who
>     browse our
>     >     public archives in future? No one can stop a list member
>     from writing
>     >     what they like but its a personal request - please think
>     before you
>     >     click the send button.
>     >     Best
>     >     Iram
>     >     (co - member of reader-list)
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     emma d wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > Alright guys enough is enough! This is not to condone the
>     >     outrageously
>     >     > content of the blog Vedvati wanted us to visit, or to condone
>     >     Abhik's
>     >     > response to the same (makes me wonder what kind of a
>     background he
>     >     > comes from), but Shuddhabrata you really take the cake. A
>     pseudo
>     >     like
>     >     > you seems to "understand" Abhik's posting! Even pimps have
>     more
>     >     > dignity than some Bong men, some Bong men like you!
>     >     >
>     >    
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