[Reader-list] fatima's response
Iram Ghufran
iram at sarai.net
Mon Nov 12 03:21:58 IST 2007
Dhatri/We Wi
What can I say?
Are you implying that the list admin SUPPORTS vrjogi at hotmail.com and
shuddha at sarai.net AS OPPOSED TO
bhatnagar_anamika at rediffmail.com, theunderscoredhood at gmail.com,
sen.gargi at gmail.com, indersalim at gmail.com, adityarajkaul at gmail.com,
kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com, parthaekka at gmail.com, radhikarajen at vsnl.net,
rana at ranadasgupta.com, rashneek at gmail.com, shuddha at sarai.net,
sadiafwahidi at yahoo.co.in, taraprakash at gmail.com, vrjogi at hotmail.com,
vishal.rawlley at gmail.com, vivek at sarai.net, yasir.media at gmail.com ?
<mailto:yasir.media at gmail.com>I think this is not possible.
Ideally your question should be addressed to the list administrator and
not to me. My email was written as a response to Radhikarajen's rather
paranoic and accusatory email.
To quote Radhikarajen:
>I have not been getting posted the sarai responses for almost two
weeks now, for reasons best known to the administrators of the sarai.
> May be they do not exactly like the way I put forth my thoughts of
good governance and relevance of the governance and the citizens to rise
above their communes of caste, faith and be humans first. ?
>
Now as most of us know, reader list was under some TECHNICAL STRESS,
regarding which, an email was sent a while ago.
Radhikarajen, obviously missed that email, so I forwarded it to her/ him.
Coming to your question - "what do you say about the following" - Well,
I say that its a technical gaffe, that your CURRENT posting made it to
the list because I think it has html tags! Ideally it should have been
held back for admin approval, unless it was the list admin who cleared
your email.
Regarding your previous email (with the Subject Header - Conclusion),
your recipient list is too long!! Again, your email should have been
held back for admin approval. Possibly it was cleared by the list admin
but the long recipient list didn't show up in entirety. This does not
imply that these people did not receive your email! In fact they
probably received TWO copies - One from the Reader List and one directly.
The changes in the CC field are not changes - just some addresses have
been scrubbed off! However, the technical team at Sarai and the list
admin will know the workings better and will hopefully respond to your
accusations.
Iram
PS: Dhatri - Please make efforts to read up on mailing lists - their
functioning, protocols, technical aspects. It will save everyone a lot
of time. Please 'dug it more' before clicking the send button. I have a
feeling that you are finding it difficult to cope with an unmoderated
space - you cant believe your luck that actually you can just about say
anything that you wish to and get away with it. Please forward your
emails which have not appeared on the list to the list admin, the reader
list and to me. I am very curious to read what the list admin seems to
have 'moderated'/ censored and Dhatri promises are meant to be broken ;-)
we wi wrote:
>
> */Dear Iram,/*
>
> *//*
>
> /* Vedavati,Radhika,Pawan and many more shouting in public openly
> about the CENSORSHIP ,missing posts and receiving of messages. Leave
> all of them, What do you say about the following?*/
>
> /**/
>
> /*The original message header that I posted to SARAI contain */
>
> *//*
>
> To:reader-list at sarai.net and rest
>
> CC.
>
>
>
> //
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:37:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: "we wi" <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> View Contact Details View Contact
> Details
> <http://address.mail.yahoo.com/yab?.rand=50367&v=SA&A=t&em=dhatr1i%40yahoo.com&.done=http%3a%2f%2fus.f455.mail.yahoo.com%2fym%2fShowLetter%3fMsgId%3d8227%5f5265325%5f89708%5f1013%5f1729%5f0%5f2605%5f5551%5f2145978986%26Idx%3d3%26YY%3d30181%26y5beta%3dyes%26y5beta%3dyes%26inc%3d25%26order%3ddown%26sort%3ddate%26pos%3d0%26view%3da%26head%3db%26box%3dSent> Add
> Mobile Alert
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>
> Subject: Conclusion
> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> CC:
>
> bhatnagar_anamika at rediffmail.com, theunderscoredhood at gmail.com,
> sen.gargi at gmail.com, indersalim at gmail.com, adityarajkaul at gmail.com,
> Send an Instant Message
> <ymsgr:sendim?kshmendra2005> kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com,
> parthaekka at gmail.com, radhikarajen at vsnl.net, rana at ranadasgupta.com,
> rashneek at gmail.com, shuddha at sarai.net, Send an Instant Message
> <ymsgr:sendim?sadiafwahidi> sadiafwahidi at yahoo.co.in,
> taraprakash at gmail.com, vrjogi at hotmail.com, vishal.rawlley at gmail.com,
> vivek at sarai.net, yasir.media at gmail.com <mailto:yasir.media at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> /*where as in SARAI PUBLISH of my original message , the header contain*/
>
> /**/
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:37:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: "we wi" <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> View Contact Details View Contact
> Details
> <http://address.mail.yahoo.com/yab?.rand=23582&v=SA&A=t&em=dhatr1i%40yahoo.com&.done=http%3a%2f%2fus.f455.mail.yahoo.com%2fym%2fShowLetter%3fMsgId%3d1669%5f5352707%5f164471%5f3713%5f2238%5f0%5f2625%5f3757%5f2707858276%26Idx%3d12%26YY%3d31493%26y5beta%3dyes%26y5beta%3dyes%26inc%3d25%26order%3ddown%26sort%3ddate%26pos%3d0%26view%3da%26head%3db%26box%3dInbox> Add
> Mobile Alert
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>
> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> CC: vrjogi at hotmail.com, shuddha at sarai.net
> Subject: [Reader-list] Conclusion
>
> //
>
> / _*Compare the 2 message headers and*_ /*_Please note the
> CHANGES IN THE CC: FIELD. _*
>
> **
>
> I Don't wish to dug it more.
> Administering/moderating/censoring/editing whats going on ??? I have
> a nil role in either media or art and not inters ted in them because I
> never studied them. I have a purpose and that was served, hence
> thought to opt out but I just tried to stay back upon the people
> requests. Just reacted to mails which are cheeky and false
> interpretive. Found so many interesting and friendly people around
> with different domains in r-list. Hence continued on the list. I
> would like to keep my promise so ...
>
> **
>
> //
>
> //
>
> */Regards,/*
>
> */Dhatri./*
>
> *//*
>
> *//*
>
> */Iram Ghufran <iram at sarai.net>/* wrote:
>
> Before jumping to hasty conclusions - it is advisable to write to the
> List Administrator. My guess is that you have been resubscribed by
> now.
> Best
> Iram Ghufran
> >>
> >> On 10/30/07, *sushil at tetrain.com *
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear All
> >>
> >> "Some users of the reader-list are not getting mails. To rectify
> >> this
> >> issue we need to restore the list with backed up information. This
> >> activity will take place at 10:00 PM IST on 30th oct 2007. It is
> >> possible that some of you might not receive list postings; if
> >> this is
> >> the case, we request you to re-subscribe to the list. Please email
> >> me if
> >> its difficult to subscribe online. Apologies for this technical
> >> problem".
> >>
> >> --
> >> .................................
> >> Thanks And Warm Regards
> >> Sushil Kumar Sharma
> >> Sr. Linux Engineer
> >
>
> radhikarajen at vsnl.net wrote:
> > I have not been getting posted the sarai responses for almost
> two weeks now, for reasons best known to the administrators of the
> sarai.
> > May be they do not exactly like the way I putforth my thoughts
> of good governance and relevance of the governance and the
> citizens to rise above their communes of caste, faith and be
> humans first. ?
> >
> > radhikarajen at vsnl.net
> >
> >
>
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