[Reader-list] Nandigram is free from terror after 11 months..

Tue Nov 13 22:46:20 IST 2007

Well, as a non 'ist' and a non 'ism' (I mean that I'm not a leftist or
a secularist or even a pseudo-secularist and won't begin to claim that
I represent any section, caste or religion in India or outside) -
would like to get back to the issue of dictator-like behaviour by an
elected government that is supposed to look after the electorate it
swore to uphold, and not suppress it.

Sure, some of the reporting can be biased, but all the national
newspapers can't be wrong - which means that there's an obvious
instance of people in power losing control and behaving as if they are
overlords who have complete freedom to impose a writ irrespective of
the wishes of the people where the writ is applicable.

Forget which party or which religion they belong to. What matter's is
that a wrong needs to be righted. Labels are irrelevant here. The
people who took the decision and those who implemented it need to be
stopped.

Maybe I'm being simplistic here. However, I'd rather look at the trees
and get the details clear so that the woods are organised.

Rgds, Partha
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On 11/13/07, TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com> wrote:
> Quite right. Tapas, thanks for expressing this in a civilized manner.
> Yes, the individual concerned appears to be sufficiently drugged. How
> similar CPM and O-pi-um, (opium) sound! and Provocation seems to be the
> motive. I don't think Prakash will mind my pasting his "over and out"
> exchange sent to me personally. Interestingly, when I was at JNU everyone
> who did not support CPM/SFI ideology, was RSS and they were the only left.
> It is different matter though, that every time there was a defection in SFI,
> the defected members went to one of the right wing parties.
> Now that CPM has been RSSized, every opposition is TMC. Did you notice that
> when last time NandiGram massacre took place, the CPM rhetoric included RSS
> supporters also as one of the trouble maker? I did not hear RSS in the list
> of the 'culprits' in any of CPM leaders' apologies this time.
>
> Here is Prakash's mail that he sent to me personally, but he wanted to send
> them to the list.
> i got mail form ur id thts why i wrote to u.. i dont want to write to
> someone who does not know the language except abuses and killings like  TMC
> goons..
> you guys have become  blind  due  to your anti-cpm attitude.. i ask u one
> question.... what was the fault of sunita mondol who was raped and killed in
> nandigram in february... what was the fault of kakuli giri..u killed shankar
> samanto but why u ousted his family from his house.....
>
> nandigram mamta banerjee aur uske maoist killers ke baap ki zamindaari hai
> kya...
>
> over and out..
>
> On Nov 13, 2007 3:28 AM, TaraPrakash <
>  taraprakash at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> block quote
> CPM dogs are now barking facing different side of the street. Earlier you
> could hear RSS in their barking, now when they have joined the parivar, by
> adopting
> their methods, they are barking TMC, TMC.
>
> You are requested to write only to the list, we don't have any reason for
> personal e-mail exchanges.
>
> block quote
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From:
> prakash ray
>
> To:
> TaraPrakash
>
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:19 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Nandigram is free from terror after 11 months..
>
> Hindi me ek kahawat (saying) hai.... khisiyani billi khambha noche... noch
> bhai noch... all TMC supporters r doing same.. u r not alone
>
> lolz
> prakash
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tapas Ray" <tapasrayx at gmail.com>
> To: <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Nandigram is free from terror after 11 months..
>
>
> > It may be just me, but I seem to detect in some messages from the member
> > whose post is quoted below, an intention to provoke those who do not
> > subscribe to his views. In this, he is very similar to the saffron
> > crowd, which I have filtered out. The other similarity with the saffron
> > crowd is a tendency to think in simplistic, black-and-white terms.
> >
> > I cannot help noting, as Vivek has done in his post, the use of the term
> > "anti-Left". To me, this is rather amusing. This person has arrogated to
> > himself the right to decide who and what is "Left" and what is
> > "anti-Left". And of course, only those who support his party are
> > "Leftists". All others are "anti-Left". As far as I know, some of the
> > literature published by his own party cautions against such
> > black-and-white thinking. But then those may be out of fashion in his
> > organisation these days.
> >
> > (A related question: I think he will not deny that there are differences
> > of opinion with the CPI(M), too. Then which opinion within the CPI(M) is
> > "Left" and which is "anti-Left"?)
> >
> > A couple more things. I think it needs to be remembered that the
> > "blood-thirsty Maoists" were a gift of the CPI(M) to West Bengal and the
> > rest of India in the late 1960s. Once born, they went on to consume
> > their own parents, along with police and other government officials.
> > Even today, are the Maoists operating in West Midnapore, Bankura,
> > Purulia and parts of Hooghly, etc., all imports from Chattisgarh and
> > Jharkhand? Can such activities be carried on without the support or
> > active participation of locals? The answer is no. They are locals, many
> > formerly of the CPI(M) itself, who have taken up arms against that party
> > because they found no possibility of injustices being redressed through
> > it, or within its setup.
> >
> > As for the other group, "Mamata's killers", who are they? Again, many
> > are former CPI(M) workers, or workers of its Left Front partners, who
> > have turned against the party for the very same reason. Nandigram itself
> > used to be a CPI(M) and CPI bastion until trouble started, and many
> > people in the BUPC - including leading people - are former CPI(M)
> > activists.
> >
> > For individuals who took up the CPI(M) flag in the 1990s or 2000s - when
> > it had already become firmly entrenched for "1000 years of rule" as a
> > party of the establishment with the power, virtually, over people's life
> > and death in West Bengal - it is not possible to comprehend the respect
> > the party commanded during the first term of West Bengal's Left Front
> > Government in 1977-82, when land reforms were being implemented and the
> > sufferings of its activists at the hands of Congress and Naxalite
> > elements during 1972-77 were fresh in people's minds. But that goodwill
> > was quickly dissipated by its own actions, which included murder,
> > mayhem, and the tendency to control everything, every institution, by
> > hook or by crook. What remained were the politics of fear, and of the
> > "loaves and fishes" of office. The word "humane" sounds ridiculous
> > coming from people who seem to support such an organisation
> > unconditionally.
> >
> > Tapas
> >
> >
> > prakash ray wrote:
> >> Dear Tara,
> >> Plz don't loose it.. I understand the frustration of anti-left people and
> >> TMC men. I urge you to look at the entire happenings related to Nandigram
> >> tragedy. The need of the hour is peace and all those who consider
> >> themselves  humane should work in that direction. I dont see any merit in
> >> supporting Mamta's killers and blood-thirsty Maoists imported from
> >> Chhatisgarh and Jharkhand to kill, loot and rape. I request you to watch
> >> my
> >> film on google video..(
> >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8022234047270357934&hl=en).
> >>
> >> There is no point in loosing your cool.....You may watch Om Shanti Om for
> >> a
> >> change..
> >>
> >> Get well soon...
> >>
> >> Prakash
> >
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