[Reader-list] Two Iqbals & One Faiz

[rashneek kher]

Thanks a lot Yasir, for the context as well as the perspective...

Regards

Rashneek


On 9/3/07, yasir ~ <yasir.media at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> briefly
>
> i am no scholar of iqbal, but ...
>
> iqbal takes rumi as his mentor and he appears again and again
>
> rumi says
> when love is apathetic one is like a bird without feathers/wings (par)
> - alas, afsos.
> choon na baa shud, ishq raa parwaa e oo
> oo cho murgh e maand e be par, waae oo
>
>
> otoh my wings/feathers (par) and hair (baal) and are the lasso?
> (kamand) of the lover (aashiq) and the pull takes me to the (koocha)
> street of the beloved.
> par o baal e maa, kamand e ishq oost
> moo kushanish mee kashad taa koo e dost
>
> imho then, "par nahee" is no feathers, no wings - does not mean 'but',
> with which the construction becomes odd too. (parwaz) flight of
> words/things (baat) only makes dramatic sense without wings and
> feathers (love apathetic) in its influence (asar) in coming from from
> the heart (dil).
>
> best
>
>
>
>
> On 9/2/07, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Yasir,
> >
> > Could you help me this one please.
> >
> > This is the first "misra" of Jawab-e-Shiqwa...
> >
> > I am sure you have read it,it reads
> >
> > Jo dil se nikalte hai baat asar rakhte hain
> > Par nahee,taqat-e-parwaaz magar rakhte hain
> >
> > Does par here mean..wings or but
> >
> > Different scholars have given me different interpretations,could you be
> kind
> > with yours.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
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Rashneek Kher
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