[Reader-list] Reply to Dhatriji, his concerns etc.

junaid justjunaid at rediffmail.com
Tue Sep 11 18:06:12 IST 2007


 
This post is only for Dhatriji. Others can just ignore it.   
 
Dear Dhatri,

I did not respond to you earlier for I suspected you were someone just playing this little game, you know, making fun of Hindu nationalism in India by writing like some typical RSS export-grade intellectual. It seems I was wrong. For if you were smart you would have realized your pun had run its honourable course. God, you really meant what you said! Although, I confess the joke is on me, but whatever it is a horrible story. You have got it totally wrong. The history, the society, philosophy, and the life in general. Even the cultural relativists would be shy to defend your warped ideas. I feel concerned, and, even against my instinct, a bit sympathetic.

Let us take your post. The US democratic hopeful is living far from Pakistan. Pakistani nuclear weapons won’t reach him. In any case, Americans bomb China many times daily in bars and pubs. Till late in the night, past many bottles of whiskey and rum, US presidential hopefuls keep catching Osamas, Ahmedinejads, and Kim Jongs of this world, so many times. But yes Americans do give aid to Pakistani dictators. They can stop it. You have to realize India does not have any aid to give. Converse logic suggests India cannot stop aid to Pakistan. If you remember Pakistan also detonated its nuclear weapons in the same month as India, so perhaps they might reply by dispatching some of them into India if India goes for hot chases, surgical strikes, masala dosas, bhel pooris etc. 

Your randomness threatens all accumulated wisdom, modern and postmodern. Your pained sigh that 'if Germany is united, and Korea is not, but might unite in future, as you feel, why should India not', is not actually a good logic. Some cocky chap might reason: Soviet Union disintegrated, and so did Yugoslavia. Why not India???  And Dhatri, my friend, this leaves you as vulnerable as someone standing in the middle of a chowk with his trousers' drawstrings snapped. 

On the "export of Buddhism", I have always wondered why India exported all of its Buddhism. It is such a good religion; should they not have kept some for themselves?  You speak of how India offers Yoga to the world so they may "refrain from violent thoughts", which is again ironic, for you seem not to have tried it on yourself. A few lines ago you, along with some American bully, were talking of bombing Pakistan. And, hey, you were saying those bombing thoughts were nice. You so humiliate consistency!

I must admit, I agree with you on one count, at least: That India's contribution to knowledge is zero.  Although I am generally against patenting, claiming Intellectual Property Rights over 0 would be particularly shameful. Apart from practical difficulties such endeavour entails, like who takes the cash, imagine a situation where people across the world say they will use their own zeros, not the Indian one which is not even properly circular, what will you do? I hope you know every country has its own zero. 
I remember a joke of a professor who, sitting in a meeting, saw a young man, his hair slicked back, variously-sized rings on his fingers, and his jeans barely clinging to his hips, come up to him to say that he wanted to speak to him. 
Professor said: "But who are you?"
"Your student." 
Embarrassedly, the professor interrupted: "Please hide this fact." The same way, Dhatri my friend, you should hide the fact that you want IPR over zero. It is good as a private sentiment, even in India's neoliberal age. Its public expression will only invite ridicule. 

You have managed to cull nine examples from your memory to suggest how India was robed, raped and run over by rulers of medieval India. Answers to these (in your own naïve/simple way) could be these: 

1. Ghazni probably attacked Somnath because it contained a lot of gold (which ideally should have belonged to subjects of contemporary kings) which he needed to bolster his own rule in regions that more or less form the present-day Afghanistan. 

2.  Ghoris and Tughlaks ruled India because their armies were strong, and they managed to defeat local rulers. (Remember I am not saying if it is good or bad.) There was no democracy at that time, before or after they came to India. Conquest and invasion seem to have been the norms of the day. According to Ramachandra Guha, the long-awaited democracy finally came with Nehru.

3.  Aurangzeb was, if you look at it, a nice bloke in what I know of him. He was not a lavish imperial spender. He caught brigands like Shivaji. He built the largest empire on what is now India. I have a serious aversion to rulers in general, but I think Aurangzeb was not any worse than Maharana Pratap or Prithvi Raj Chauhan. If you talk to your Sarsanghchalak he might tell you it is more hot air than fact. At the same time I agree Aurangzeb could have used witchcraft. I wonder when he was playing his witchcraft on Hindu women, where were the great Sadhu maharajas doing.  

4. What is 'Partia'?

5. Kohinoor Diamond came from Golconda, passed through many rulers’ hands, Kakatyas, Tughlaks, Mughals etc, and is finally with British. Believe me it is not good for India, it brings bad luck. The Peacock Throne was made for Shah-e-Jahan, the Mughal Emperor. It was taken away by Nader Shah to Persia in 1739. The original Peacock Throne was destroyed, so can’t come back. In any case, why should it matter to you; it was made by Mughals who you think are not legitimate part of the Indian history. 

6. Zinna, popularly called Jinnah, wanted a separate state for those Muslims who wanted to go to Pakistan. Did you, in an earlier mail, ask what the contribution of Pakistan was in the freedom struggle! Nothing, really. Because they were digging a canal in Rawalpindi at that time, and could not show up. But they have expressed sorry so many times for that. You should consider.  Personally I am jealous of Jinnah; he got his Pakistan. 

7. I totally agree Pakistan and China should vacate the peaks. They belong to Kashmir. India should also think about it.   
     
8.  Jihad Jihad Jihad Juhad Jihid Jahid Jidha Jadhi Jihdi

Junaid 
      
  
          A fact is always a fact.  I didn't heard anything from junaid.  I don't know how many of the sarai members are on their original names.   While a day after the writing of this post, a democrat from  U.S senate expressed his view stating that 
  
 "If he would be the PRESIDENT OF USA, he would have stopped the aid to Pakistan and attacked the training camps at Pakistan ".   If people of USA, and Americans thinking in such a nice way why not WE Indians?  
  
 Germaine's are united  and so as Korea's in future.  Why not India???  Actually my writing was side tracked by the members of the SARAI.  Its not like India-Centric or language as some of the member expressed. Akhand Bharat is used to speak Sanskrit as the medium of communication. Still many words are imported from Sanskrit and used in the national language(HINDI) and regional languages.  Now a days English is the common medium of communication used in the world. 
  
 INSTEAD OF ILLEGAL POSSESSION OF LAND(KASHMIR), both CHINA AND PAKISTAN and their supporters writing here SHOULD RETHINK about their thoughts and understanding towards their pseudo practices over religion.   Since India is the exporter of BUDDHISM a transformation of Hinduism to Asia,  We Indians are ready to offer afresh thought again in the form of YOGA and the importance of prayer to make countries and people feel better, confess themselves and refrain from violent thoughts. 
  
   Even British handed over Hong Kong to Chaina after 99 year lease 
 India did the same against Pakistan in the wars. 
 If leases and defeats are generously managed
 Then whynot Pakistan and Chaina do the same in case of India?
 What the hell the world is doing at the suffering of our hearts and blood?

  
  
 This community include a variety of reporters,filmmakers,software engineers and intellectuals working at various capacities, I just ask you to think it and spread on the idea to claim the PATENTS AND IPR(INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS) over 0.
  
  
 The following are a few of the Barbarian attacks,losses and culture erosion
  
 1) Ghajani on Somanath temple
 2) Ghori rule
 3) Tuglaq rule
 4) Aurangzeb witched, weird conversion tactics on Hindu woman
 5) Attacks from Partia
 6) Kohinoor and several precious diamonds, peacock crown at world museum's  
 7) Zinna 2 nation theory and power joy at the cost of Indian patriot deaths
 8) Illegal possession of land in Pakistan and China Hands
   (those are not empty peaks but the heart beat of Indians)
 9) Jihadi attacks on India
  
 Isliye mein likha hoon ki hamko kuch bhi karne ka hak hai.
  
 Regards,
 Dhatri.



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