[Reader-list] Naeem Mohaiemen did not deserve an answer

[Gargi Sen]

Dear K. of AR2KP+VD,
Good to see you back in original form. I was wondering whether laughter had
made the leopard shed its spots. Happy to know such calamities have not
befallen you. So welcome back to the list in your true role as destroyer of
pseudo-secular, intellectual community's faith in La La Land. You must not
disappear or get distracted into intellectual debates about Iqbal and Faiz
and other poseurs. Your job has been defined centuries ago:
yada yada hi dharmasya, glanirbhavati bharata, abhyuthanam adharmsya,
tadatmanam srijamyaham (Each time dharma is under threat in Bharata (the
land) , I shall reappear every time to destroy that adharma) [For those in
the list unfamiliar with the Indian epic Mahabharata in which nestles a
chapter called Gita - this sloka is from Gita and can be described as
Krishna's (the God's) calling card or signature tune.]
So dear K. remain steadfast to your true calling. Do not waver. Do not
weaken. Do not give into intellectual jugglery with intellectuals juggling
with intellect. Over come desire to wander off into intellectual la la land.
Don't give into temptations. Abstain from desires.  And connect to your
power, your truly powerful power of vengeance. And live to Destroy.

Gargi

PS: just so that you don't get confused dear and allow that confusion to
distract you from your calling, Naeem is not really asking a question. Not
a real question anyhow. He is stating a position, by asking a question.
This form of intellectual jugglery though has not been discovered by
intellectuals of la la land inhabiting this list, but  can be traced  back
to one tenet of  Hinduism itself.  I forget which one exactly - ask the
toilet cleaner.

On 13/09/2007, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ten days back, Naeem Mohaiemen posted a question "Is There Nothing You
> would Censor". It was pertinent to the then ongoing discussion about
> "freedoms".
>
>   No one answered him. None of the leading lights of this "intellectual
> community" thought the question deserved an answer.
>
>   The bunch of 'La La Land" hypocrites did not have the moral courage to
> answer.
>
>   Kshmendra Kaul
>
>   PS:
>   Dear Naeem
>
>   It might upset you that the likes of me should be using your posting to
> make a point. You might ignore it, but if I receive a sharp retort from you,
> I will understand.
>
>   KK
>
>
>
>
>
> Naeem Mohaiemen <naeem.mohaiemen at gmail.com> wrote:
>   The question was asked repeatedly on Sarai list recently, "are there
> films whose screenings you would stop"?
>
> Could it be, that even now, there are certain lines to be drawn? Read
> on....
>
>
> Already Under Fire, a Producer Is Going Further
> By MICHAEL CIEPLY/NYT
> Published: June 25, 2007
>
> ...Having already provoked parents, women's groups and the ratings
> board with explicit ads for the coming torture movie ''Captivity,''
> Mr. Solomon and his After Dark Films now intend to introduce the film,
> set for release July 13, with a party that may set a new standard for
> the politically incorrect.
>
> ...But the warren of live torture rooms is a must. As Mr. Solomon
> envisions it, individuals in torture gear will wander through the West
> Hollywood club Privilege grabbing partygoers. All of which is a
> prelude to an undisclosed main event that, he warned last week over
> slices of pizza a few doors from his company's new offices on the
> Sunset Strip, is ''probably not legal.'' "'The women's groups
> definitely will love it,'' Mr. Solomon hinted. ''I call it my personal
> little tribute to them.''
>
> Mr. Solomon, a fast-talking 35-year-old, and his genre-film company
> were barely noticed until outrage at the ''Captivity'' billboards --
> which chronicled a young woman's torment, with frames titled
> ''Abduction,'' ''Confinement,'' ''Torture,'' ''Termination'' -- led to
> a rare censure by the Motion Picture Association of America this
> spring.
>
> When the association's ratings board suspended its process for a month
> as a punitive measure, ''Captivity'' missed its May release date and
> was bumped to June 22. But Bob Weinstein and his Dimension Films
> wanted that date for their competing horror film ''1408,'' and he
> persuaded Mr. Solomon to swap for Friday, July 13. Mr. Solomon quickly
> called that Friday ''Captivity Day.''
>
> ...These added explicit torture , including a so-called ''milkshake''
> scene that involves body parts and a blender, to a picture that was
> largely psychological in its thrust when After Dark acquired the
> rights to it.
>
> Government to Take a Hard Look at Horror
> By MICHAEL CIEPLY/NYT
> Published: March 24, 2007
>
>
> ...Earlier this week, After Dark and Lionsgate scrambled to contain
> the public-relations damage after a Los Angeles Times columnist quoted
> several young students objecting to an especially gruesome billboard
> for ''Captivity'' near their middle school. After Dark, which is
> expected to release the film on May 18 with Lionsgate, quickly agreed
> to pull part of its ad campaign.
>
> ....Horror aficionados date the genre's current flourishing to October
> 2004. The first of Lionsgate's ''Saw'' movies, about a demonically
> inventive serial killer, opened to a surprisingly strong $18 million
> on its first weekend, though it lacked an expensive cast or a
> pedigreed filmmaker. Sequels, imitators and close cousins soon
> followed.
>
> ...Fox Atomic, a division formed by Fox Searchlight to cultivate the
> late-teenage and early-adult audience, on March 6 placed an ad for its
> film ''The Hills Have Eyes 2'' with an evening showing of
> ''Dodgeball,'' rated PG-13, on FX. The ad identified ''Hills,'' about
> National Guard trainees brutally murdered by mutants, as being not yet
> rated, though film association guidelines call for the disclosure of
> ratings in ads, and the company had accepted an R rating the day
> before. John Hegeman, Fox Atomic's chief operating officer, said the R
> rating was missing because it takes about two days to alter a
> television spot
>
> ....official sites for R-rated fare -- deal with
> Bloody-disgusting.com, Arrow in the Head (joblo.com/arrow),
> Fangoria.com, or any of another dozen such Web sites.
> (Bloody-disgusting, for example, includes chat forums that address
> such questions as: ''Can anyone suggest a good torture-esk
> movie?'')...The operators of several such sites said they had no way
> of knowing how many of their visitors were under 17, but believed the
> numbers were substantial. ''The horror site skews a little more toward
> the younger ones,'' said Berge Garabedian, founder of the Joblo.com
> film site and its associated Arrow in the Head horror section, which
> this week carried a banner ad for an unrated DVD of ''Sublime,'' about
> gruesome murder in a hospital, from Warner Home Video. Mr. Garabedian
> said he tried to block visitors under 15 from discussion boards in
> order to eliminate ''a lot of MySpace craziness,'' but thought a
> considerable share of his Arrow in the Head visitors to be in the
> 13-to-18-year-old age range.
>
> ....Experian Simmons Research found that 12 percent of respondents
> between the ages of 12 and 17 reported watching ''Saw II'' in
> theaters, while 12 percent said they had seen the film on DVD, and 26
> percent reported viewing any horror in theaters. In its 2004 report,
> the Federal Trade Commission said that in 36 percent of their
> attempts, its underage ''mystery shoppers'' were able to buy a movie
> ticket without an age check in theaters, down somewhat from about half
> in 2000. Meanwhile 81 percent of the young buyers obtained R-rated
> DVDs without a check.
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