[Reader-list] JKLF leader Yasin Malik says unarmed IAF officers were agents of Enemy...defends killing them !

Shuddhabrata Sengupta shuddha at sarai.net
Thu Sep 13 18:20:54 IST 2007


Dear all, Dear ARKP,

It seems to me that you guys are the people most attatched to Yasin 
Malik on this list. I have rarely seen such undying affection or 
devotion to Yasin Malik as demonstrated by you, repeatedly. Really, the 
JKLF (Yasin Malik faction) should hire you as publicists.

Whenever you have a problem, whenever your arguments are demonstrated as 
hollow,  whenever the discussion moves on towards things more intersting 
than what you throw into the ring, you pull Yasin Malik out of your 
little bag of tricks. As if he was some kind of protective talisman 
behind whom you can shield your obvious inability to participate in a 
discussion.

In two successive mails addressed to Pawan Durani, I had categorically 
stated my opposition to the use of violence, and also categorically 
mentioned that if any charges are brought in the legally prescribed 
manner against Yasin Malik, me, Pawan Durani, my father or Santa Claus 
on suspicion of homicide then they (Yasin Malik, me, Pawan Durani, my 
father and Santa Claus) should be required to stand a free and fair trial.

I had said this while trying painstakingly to explain the meaning of the 
phrase 'he, or any other' which I had used when on another occasion, 
ARKP had brought out the effigy of Yasin Malik (yet again) to cover for 
their defeated arguments. I cannot understand why, after this, the issue 
of Yasin Malik refuses to go away.

See my posts,

1. Re: [Reader-list] By R.J.Rummel, September 3, 2007
2. Re : [Reader-list] Reply To Shuddha (Yasin Sahibs Fan), September 4, 2007

In the first, I say - "As for the deaths of Indian State and Armed 
Forces Personnel. Let me make my position clear. I am not a votary of 
pursuing politics by violence, no matter who does it. Not because I have 
a moral position vis a vis violence, but because I believe that the 
strategy of terror, no matter who pursues it, invariably leads to 
secretive, un-accountable and un-democratic politics, which leads to 
popular movements being corrupted and infiltrated by the very forces 
that they are opposing. I think this has happenned in Kashmir, and it 
happenned both because of the machinations of the Indian state and the 
political immaturity of the pro Azadi 'tanzeems' in Jammu and Kashmir, 
and in the Kashmiri diaspora."

In the second post, I say "if anyone, whether it is Yasin Malik or
Santa Claus, or you, or me, or my father,  that is what the "he or any
other person" in the above paragraph means (reference to a quotaion from 
a fragement of my earlier post) - is found guilty of homicide
in a free and fair trial, they should be punished for it, with a prison
term if need be, as per the provisions of a criminal procedure code."

I do not know how much clearer a position can be than this. And yet, 
again, and again, and again, we see Pawan Durani bringing up the 
allegation that there are poeple on this list (myself explicitly 
included) who serve as apologists either for Yasin Malik or for anyone 
else who has either committed or condoned the use of violence in Kashmir

So the next time someone, anyone, in ARKP (though this type of bad 
sniping does seem to be the particular forte of A and P) brings out the 
effigy of Yasin Malik in any posting, dear readers, please understand 
that it is a semaphore, a code that indicates that they are admitting 
yet again that they are a bunch of losers, who refuse to learn any 
lessons from their defeats. We can sympathise (at a stretch) with the 
abjectness of that failure, but we cannot refuse to see it for what it is.

I am also amused at the deliberate carping about the category of people 
that are being loosely called 'intellectuals' on this list. I fail to 
understand precisely what is wrong with being an 'intellectual' - with 
being a person who works for a living with words, images, ideas and 
concepts. Is it better to be a dentist, or a chef, or a traffic police 
inspector, or a gardener, or a financial analyst than it is to be a 
writer, a teacher, an artist, a philosopher, a librarian or a scientist?

I see nothing wrong with being a  dentist, or a chef, or a traffic 
police inspector, or a gardener, or a financial analyst, and 
consequently, I fail to see what is wrong with being what is loosely 
called 'an intellectual'. Since when did the choice of your practice 
mark you out as being the appropriate target of abuse. Would it make 
sense, if I, or anyone else were to say on this list, "...and the 
'dentists' will still have some argument...........god bless India'.

Is it someone's fault that they take care about how they write, or read, 
or express an argument? Is it a mistake, an error, to be able to work 
through the nuances of a statement, or an argument, to try and see 
complexity, or to try and engage in a dialogue on the basis of a respect 
for knowledge and the spirit of dialogue?

I think it is far worse to see some people demonstrate their pride in 
their inability to marshall even the basic rudiments of an argument. The 
arrogance born of knowledge, or of claims to knowledge, is sad, but the 
arrogance born of wilful and publicly demonstrated ignorance is really 
pathetic.

regards,

an intellectual, and a toilet cleaner






Pawan Durani wrote:

> And the "intellectuals" will still have some argument................god
> Bless India.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/13/07, Aditya Raj Kaul <adityarajkaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>*The agents of the 'enemy'** - Rediff News
>>
>>*** *Srinagar.* January 25, 1990 Squadron Leader Ravi Khanna's misfortune
>>was that he was in uniform.
>>That winter morning nine years ago, he and his colleagues were waiting
>>near
>>the Rawalpura bus stand. An Indian Air Force bus was to reach them to the
>>airport.
>>At around 0730 hours a Maruti Gypsy and a two-wheeler carrying four to
>>five
>>Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front militants drew up. The next thing that
>>Khanna knew was bullets pumping into his body. That was the last thing he
>>knew. Around him 13 more fell. Three of them dead, 10 were injured. Hardly
>>50 yards away was a Jammu and Kashmir police picket, manned by a head
>>constable and seven subordinates. Their eight .303 rifles remained silent
>>as
>>the militants finished emptying their weapons and, taking a clockwise
>>circuit of the roundabout ahead, vanished unhurriedly into Srinagar's
>>numerous back lanes.
>>*Even after he gave up the gun, JKLF leader Yasin Malik was to defend the
>>killings: The IAF personnel were not innocent victims. They were the
>>agents
>>of the 'enemy'. *
>>
>>
>>*--
>>Aditya Raj Kaul
>>Blog: www.kauladityaraj.blogspot.com
>>Campaign Blog: www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
>>RIK Website: www.rootsinkashmir.org
>>US Website: www.unitedstudents.in*
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