[Reader-list] JKLF leader Yasin Malik says unarmed IAF officers were agents of Enemy...defends killing them !

[Shuddhabrata Sengupta]

Pawan Durani wrote:

> What if I counter your first argument with ..."What's the point that a woman
> is molested , they are prone to it."
> 

Interesting, that Pawan Durani should think that it is natural that 
women should be 'prone' to being molested.

I personally think that there is a world of a difference between the 
estimation of risks that uniformed personnel of the armed forces in a 
combat zone knows that they faces, and the situation of being a woman.

No one can deny that a member of the armed forces, especially one in 
uniform, wears that uniform knowing fully well that in a situation of 
armed conflict, that uniform will mark him or her as a fair target. If 
they did not know that, they would not have joined the armed forces.

A soldier who wears a military uniform makes a choice to face and 
deliver aggression, if need be. A person who is born a woman does not 
make a choice to face molestation.  In fact in many societies, women do 
not face the level of molestation that they do in lets say the streets 
of Delhi, regardless of what they happen to be wearing. In most cities 
in the world, women are not "prone to it" in the manner Durni suggests 
they are.

By equating these two very different kinds of situation, what Pawan 
Durani is saying is as follows - women are that special kind of people 
who will naturally face molestation in any and every circumstance, they 
are in his words "prone to it".

It makes me ask a set of questions about the kind of man Pawan Durani 
is, and about the things that he is 'prone' to

the kind obviously, who (logically following through his argument) 
thinks that all women are fair game, as far as molestation goes, 
because, they "are prone to it".

I think that we can conclude from this that no woman under any 
circumstances should feel safe in the company of Pawan Durani.

regards

Shuddha






> Does that mean that we dont owe any responsibility.
> 
> People like you have zero nationalism and negative intellectualism.
> 
> I would still say ...may God Bless even you , who does not care even for the
> martyrs of his country.
> 
> 
> On 9/13/07, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>Not as an 'intellectual', but as an ordinary list reader, have some
>>questions
>>1.  What's the point - that a soldier was killed by a militant?
>>     That's a part of their job profile. A tragic incident but a part of
>>     the armed forces life. Just as a militant knows that he'll be
>>     targetted by armed forces fire, armed forces know that they'll be
>>     targetted by militants
>>
>>2.  Yasin Malik didn't apologise? Well, that's his personal point of view.
>>
>>     Like he has his, you have yours - and thy differ. This post is not
>>     marked to him so you're obviously not trying to change his mind
>>     and make him apologise.
>>
>>3.  We've all seen footage of armed forces showing unrelated people as
>>     militants and cops showing innocent people as criminals so we know
>>     that both sides play dirty. That's a fact of life that needs to be
>>faced
>>     by unbiased reporting to clean the problem and not enhance it by
>>hate.
>>
>>4.  Where does "God Bless India" come in - or even India come in since
>>     militancy is a global problem from Ceylon to Afghanistan to the US
>>     and Ireland
>>
>>This pointless post has got me completely confused as to what you're
>>trying to say,
>>unless it's linked to a larger debate - in which case you should include
>>the debate.
>>
>>Rgds, Partha
>>....................
>>
>>On 9/13/07, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>And the "intellectuals" will still have some argument................god
>>>Bless India.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9/13/07, Aditya Raj Kaul <adityarajkaul at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>*The agents of the 'enemy'** - Rediff News
>>>>
>>>>*** *Srinagar.* January 25, 1990 Squadron Leader Ravi Khanna's
>>>
>>>misfortune
>>>
>>>>was that he was in uniform.
>>>>That winter morning nine years ago, he and his colleagues were waiting
>>>
>>>>near
>>>>the Rawalpura bus stand. An Indian Air Force bus was to reach them to
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>airport.
>>>>At around 0730 hours a Maruti Gypsy and a two-wheeler carrying four to
>>>>five
>>>>Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front militants drew up. The next thing
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>>Khanna knew was bullets pumping into his body. That was the last thing
>>>
>>>he
>>>
>>>>knew. Around him 13 more fell. Three of them dead, 10 were injured.
>>>
>>>Hardly
>>>
>>>>50 yards away was a Jammu and Kashmir police picket, manned by a head
>>>>constable and seven subordinates. Their eight .303 rifles remained
>>>
>>>silent
>>>
>>>>as
>>>>the militants finished emptying their weapons and, taking a clockwise
>>>>circuit of the roundabout ahead, vanished unhurriedly into Srinagar's
>>>>numerous back lanes.
>>>>*Even after he gave up the gun, JKLF leader Yasin Malik was to defend
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>killings: The IAF personnel were not innocent victims. They were the
>>>>agents
>>>>of the 'enemy'. *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>*--
>>>>Aditya Raj Kaul
>>>>Blog: www.kauladityaraj.blogspot.com
>>>>Campaign Blog: www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
>>>>RIK Website: www.rootsinkashmir.org
>>>>US Website: www.unitedstudents.in*
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>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Partha Dasgupta (9811047132)
>>http://www.jaxtr.com/parthaekka
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