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[Partha Dasgupta]

Hi Dhatri,

Went through your mail and the links but was completely baffled by the post.

1.  Where does the Military come in?
     You've shown posts wherein they're heroes, and official reports where
they
      engaged in loot and rape.
      What's that got to do with protecting boundaries?

2.   Never tried to invade...
      Please get your facts right. How was Bangladesh born? It was carved
out of Pakistan
      by an armed conflict. Which also was marked by rape and loot.

3.   Wealth stolen by Islamic rulers. Please read your history. Most of them
settled their
     family lines here (if not all). And they're assimilated in India like
the Greeks and the
     Romans. If you claim they're not, how far will we go back in history
till we define
     who the original habitants are and then throw out everyone else?

4.  Whatever else was 'stolen' by various rulers, I don't quite see how you
are claiming
     a right to it. In some cases, there is a clear transgression, but then
again whichever
     maharaja it was taken from usually gave it to please the 'masters'.
Sure, I'm glad that
     the sword of Tipu Sultan was won back, but that doesn't mean we go
about screaming
     about things that were actually given. If a man in those days bought a
Peacock leaf
     and took it back to his wife in the UK, and the family still retains it
- it's their right.

5.  What occupation are you referring to? Jammu and Kashmir? One parts in
India and the
     other in Pakistan and the debate has gone on endlessly as to whether
they should be
     a different country or a part of India (as India insists) or a part of
Pakistan (as Pakistan
     insists).
    As far as I'm concerned, the first requirement is to stop the killing
and the cycle of hate.
    Then, and ONLY then, can a meaningful dialogue happen that can actually
reach a
    solution. Till then everything else is a verbal fight that will continue
till a physical fight
    and more and more people will die.

I do hope that stopping the loss of life is one of your aims, as it is your
countymen (and women) who are also dying in this conflict, and you claim to
love the country.

Rgds, Partha
..................

On 9/14/07, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>     Dear Readers,
>
>          On the debate I just missed to mention one important point.   If
> you type it in google you can find several links.  Among them for your
> convenience I pasted few link which will not take more than 30 minutes to
> go-through and understand. A recent one similar to the atrocities of
> Aurangzeb by NIZAM.
>
>   RAZAKAR MOVEMENT, KHASIM RIZVI.
>
>   On this I just added Swapandas gupta column(link 3).  The MIM attacking
> Tasleema Nasreen.
>
>   1) http://www.vepachedu.org/hyderabad.html
>   2) http://www.telangana.com/History/razakar.htm
>   3)
> http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnist1.asp?main_variable=Columnist&file_name=swapan%2Fswapan159.txt&writer=swapan
>   4)
> http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/2005/16-31Mar05-Print-Edition/163103200579.htm
>   5) http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl1805/18051140.htm
>
>
>                Military system is there to protect the country boarders
> and boundaries sure but from Outside Invaders.  This is the primary
> objective of any country's Military system.  I don't understand how the
> world military do react, in situations that India faced since Alexander to
> Post Independence Wars.  From Emperors to democracy as a country and Nation
> India never tried to invade any country.
>
>   I do excuse those who are unwilling(Pakistan,China,junaid and liked
> personalities and the rest of the feelers and supporters) to withdrew their
> statements, comments and forces on India,Jammu and Kashmir(Our head and
> brain) Occupations and offerings,Indo Centrism.   I do excuse our failure to
> question about the wealth steal-ed by Islamic rulers, British and respective
> regime selfishness,unwillingness to return the robbed/looted property.     I
> request you through SARAI, to surpass the idea of IPR/PATENTS over 0 under
> GATT/WTO pacts and reforms to empower the country(INDIA) and put on hold to
> the betrayers from now onwards at least.
>
>   Thanx and Regards,
>   Dhatri.
>
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Partha Dasgupta (9811047132)
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