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[Pawan Durani]

Saddha is a self confessed expert on Indian History , Communism , Kashmir ,
Rajtarangini , numerology and list goes on.

On 9/15/07, Vishal Rawlley <vishal.rawlley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Other things India should patent:
>
> 1. Kamasutra:
> This will make us richer every time someone has sex in any inventive
> position or with multiple partners of either sex. The missionaries can
> charge for the only position they thought of.
>
> 2. Yoga:
> This way even if someone breathes in deeply and lets it out slowly it will
> add to our coffers. If they want to save money let them keep jogging and
> panting - might be good for those fat Americans.
>
> 3. Udan Khatola
> This flying vehicle was invented much earlier than the Wright
> bothers pop was ever born. Every airline should pay India for this. Else
> they can keep flying in hot air balloons.
>
> I am sure Dhatriji, whose brain is even sharper than Chacha Chowdhary, can
> add many more items to this list.
>
> Patent Raj Sambhava!
>
> -Vishal
>
>
> On 9/14/07, Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Vishal-ji,
> >
> > Excellent ! I am glad that you have seen shining light. I have also seen
> > the shining light. Pure breeze of wisdom is now blowing on this list
> > after nightmare of last few days. With vigilant right minded
> > intellectuals like Dhatri-ji in our midst, to protect us with Santan
> > Dharma and intellectual property, we are at last in safe hands. Here at
> > last is an intellectual who is serious about his property.
> >
> > But there is a problem. Which I am adding to the problem already
> > mentioned by you, Vishalji, in the form and shape of Roman Numerals.
> >
> > You must know 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9 are also referred to as Arabic
> > Numerals. And this is a real serious problem. Now we must do something
> > about these evil arabic numbers. After you have pointed out the danger
> > posed to us by Roman numerals, I have become very vigilant about arabic
> > numerals also. I smell a Vatican-Jihadist conspiracy to decimate us. Oh,
> > davati-deva, even the decimals are a Roman plot. And if you think of the
> > fact that the space between any two real numbers are taken by infinite
> > fractions then the mind and the bank account of sanatan akhand bharata
> > varsha truly begins to boggle.
> >
> > I have heard it said that these arabic numerals are actually hindu
> > numerals. But since a number is not a vivadit sthal, a disputed
> > structure, we cannot pull down one number and try and build another in
> > its place, as we did with the Shri Ramjanmabhoomi Mandir (Lord Rama
> > Birthplace Temple). And how many numbers shall we pull down, and how
> > many numbers shall we build. Yugas and Kalpas will pass even before we
> > have reached a respectable few billion. This is a problem, other wise we
> > could have proposed an all india Hindu Number Liberation Struggle. What
> > to do. What to do. What to do.
> >
> > Does this mean that the descendents and camp followers of those mlecchas
> > who Dhatriji has accused of ruling roost over Bharat Bhoomi will
> > completely walk out of the patent treasury loaded, and use their ill
> > gotten arabic numeral induced gain to convert yet more hindus, and then
> > what will happen to hinduism, i mean hindooism, with the double
> > barrelled zero in the midle, will it become a big zero? Is that what we
> > mean by Nada Brahma. He Bhagwan. And all this will happen because our
> > traitor left handed intellectual class did not warning us in advance
> > about the danger of patenting zero and the danger of not patenting
> > zero.They are cheating not only in history,geography and mythology but
> > in mathematics also. I think this is known as a zero sum game.
> >
> > At least the Buddhists are able to make some capital out of their
> > cunning philosophical concept of shunyata (or zero-ism) but us Hindus,
> > we do not even have zeroism, we have dualities (dvaita) qualified
> > dualities, and to top it all we have non-duality (advaita) that is
> > actually infinity, and which are all totally useless in a commercial
> > context and from the point of view of national economic growth because
> > every infinity can be made paradoxically more as well as less infinite
> > by the addition of an evil arabic number after it. So what will we do
> > when we are reduced to zero? Infinity will be of no help to us. Not even
> > Infinity Foundation which is doing so much good in Amerika-Dham by
> > flying the flag of Dharma will be of any use. Hai Deva, Hai Rama, Hai
> > Aryabhatta, Hai Hai, Hai Hai.
> >
> > Vishaal ji, do you have any way out of this serious dilemma? I am
> > reduced to nothing. You are vishaal, you are infinite, you are sarve
> > sarva. Tell us, guide us, lead us. Shall we request Pravinji Togadiaji
> > of Vishwa Hindu Parishad to propose a Vishwavyapi (world wide) campaign
> > to ban all Arabic and Roman Numerals. Or should we ask for this campaign
> > to remain confined to national level only. Is this happening because of
> > globalization? And what will happen to our rising power, backed by
> > binary number and computerization if we drop this arabic one, this evil
> > aaleph from the binary duet of one and zero. Why are our patriotic
> > computer scientists not building computers based only on pure santan
> > mathematical concept of unity in infinity. We must do something,
> anything.
> >
> > I remain
> >
> > Shunya Shuddha
> >
> > Vishal Rawlley wrote:
> >
> > > Dhatri-ji said:
> > >
> > > " --On 0,
> > > ...
> > >  I would like to bring a point on WTO, probably most of the members
> > aware
> > > that except a few all countries signed WTO Free trade Geneva
> > pact.  Under
> > > this India can claim Patents/IPR over 0.  How is this useful and
> > applicable
> > > to India?  Let me explain more scientifically.
> > >  Hitech world use computers day-to-day life everywhere. Computers
> > operate on
> > > "bit".  A bit is nothing but a binary digit (0 or 1). If India claim
> and
> > get
> > > Patenting and IPR over 0, those all countries under the cover of WTO
> > Pact
> > > should take the permission from India to operate their ELECTRICAL,
> > NUCLEAR,
> > > MILITARY, DEFENCE, SPACE, R & D, INUDSTRIAL RELATED or whatever
> > COMPUTERISED
> > > automation systems.  And general use of 0, India may/may not uses
> > minimal
> > > charge. We (Indians) are so kind enough to allow countries to use 0
> for
> > > general purposes. It depends again."
> > >
> > > I say:
> > > Why no response by any "intellectual" on this question of "0"
> > importance???
> > >
> > > But Dhatri saahab, if we patent "0" and charge for its usage, won't
> > people
> > > give us a "0" amount in return?? They will say:"scientifically"
> > speaking, we
> > > have only zero to offer in return of a zero!
> > >
> > > These Indians, I tell you, they are smart but they do not know how to
> > profit
> > > from their smartness, we shall therefore remain poor only, alas. Hai
> > Rama.
> > >
> > > Now if we had invented I, II, III, V, X, XX, XXX, L, M etc. as the
> smart
> > > Romans did, then we should most defenitely have patented all those and
> > > charged IIIVXXXLM.... amounts for each single use and then we would
> have
> > > been a super power already and Akhand Bharat could have been a
> > reality!!!
> > >
> > > Now I hope no Romans read this and use this idea against us. Then, for
> > > example, each student going to standard IV might have to pay IV
> > Euros  to
> > > them. That will surely ruin our education system. No? Then only the
> > children
> > > in 'chauthi kaksha' (fourth grade) from hindi medium schools would be
> > able
> > > to afford education, as they never even used the IV notation! Maybe,
> > that
> > > will turn out to be a good thing after all! Hindi is really suffering
> in
> > > this country and so are all the regional languages. What say?
> > >
> > > Jai Hind!!!
> > >
> > > -Vishal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/12/07, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Dear Readers including Junaid in particular,
> > >>
> > >>Your Must understand that Dhatri is a pen name like junaid from
> Gujarat
> > >>.  If you go deeper meaning for this pen name Dhatri, Dhatri ==
> > >>Earth.  Santi,  Sama, Dama are qualities of Mother Earth.  If you have
> > >>patience to look at these terms just go through the entire link or
> just
> > fire
> > >>a find (Cntl+F) and type these terms over there.
> > >>
> > >>http://www.upnaway.com/~bindu/anantayogaweb/mind/mindchap37.htm
> > >>
> > >>To hell with the junaid sympathy, let me compose with a pity: -
> > >>
> > >>I have nothing to do with RSS, Sanghparivar, Vhp, Sadhu, Santh
> > parishaths,
> > >>Madras's and Junaid party elsewhere and feelings.  India HINDU comes
> > first
> > >>and whatever comes is later.  As a Citizen of India, Valid Passport
> > holder,
> > >>It's my Constitutional right to vote as per my choice and live.  Those
> > all
> > >>who never completed schooling and aware of India
> > >>Will never understand this simple thing.  I think this suffices to
> > >>enlighten those narrowly shattered closed brains.
> > >>
> > >>Focusing on the topic now,
> > >>
> > >>What is USA will do is subject to change.   Stop writing converse
> logic
> > >>and in REVERSE WAY.  Be Positive always.
> > >>
> > >>>If you remember Pakistan also detonated its nuclear weapons in the
> > >same
> > >>
> > >>month as India, so perhaps they might reply by dispatching some >of
> them
> > >>into India if India goes for hot chases, surgical strikes, >masala
> > dosas,
> > >>bhel pooris etc.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>YOU FORGET TO ADD wadapav, pohe, kachori (sweet things like India).
> > >>
> > >>Let me add Chillies (spicy).  By applying Mathematical
> > >>
> > >>Induction,on Junaid statement
> > >>"Pakistani nuclear weapons won't reach US democrat"
> > >>
> > >>so as the same will be true and applicable that "they will not move
> out
> > of
> > >>their depots wherever they are".  I will prove it how
> > >>India can execute it later.
> > >>
> > >>--Buddhism is just a flavor of Hinduism.  As I quoted earlier
> > >>
> > >>Yada yada hi dharmasya Glanir bhavati bharata
> > >>Abhyutthanam adharmasya Tadatmanam srjamy aham
> > >>TRANSLATION
> > >>Whenever and wherever there is decay of righteousness, O Bharata, and
> a
> > >>rise of unrighteousness then I manifest myself!
> > >>OR
> > >>Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O
> > >>descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion--at that
> > time I
> > >>descend myself.
> > >>So Sidhartha, or Gowtham Buddha, or Buddha for simple understanding is
> > the
> > >>9th incarnation (out of 10) and one more remaining to come.  The
> > followers
> > >>of Buddhism now misunderstood it.
> > >>
> > >>--And on Yoga as an alternative way that India freshly offers to the
> > world
> > >>or a bunch of people like you. What to do if people/countries like you
> > are
> > >>betraying then bullying is the last sort of option.  I don't know how
> > many
> > >>of the readers aware of this but happy to quote from the first Para of
> > the
> > >>post
> > >>
> > >>--Dandam dasa gunam bhaveth
> > >>
> >
> http://ndtv.com/mb/readreply.asp?topicid=1707&id=629543&tablename=Business
> > >>
> > >>--On 0,
> > >>Though you agreed and admitted, it shows you lack of knowledge,
> > >>understanding and vision.  Your English usage, smartness and joviality
> > >>(professor student) and your will in favor/against PATENTING and IPR
> is
> > >>nothing to do with the practicalities. You may say that countries/you
> > can
> > >>use 0 as "orez" in your/their OWN WAY.   No problem you/countries can
> > write
> > >>whatever the way they wish to use.
> > >>
> > >>  I would like to bring a point on WTO, probably most of the members
> > aware
> > >>that except a few all countries signed WTO Free trade Geneva
> > pact.  Under
> > >>this India can claim Patents/IPR over 0.  How is this useful and
> > applicable
> > >>to India?  Let me explain more scientifically.
> > >>Hitech world use computers day-to-day life everywhere. Computers
> operate
> > >>on "bit".  A bit is nothing but a binary digit (0 or 1). If India
> claim
> > and
> > >>get Patenting and IPR over 0, those all countries under the cover of
> WTO
> > >>Pact should take the permission from India to operate their
> ELECTRICAL,
> > >>NUCLEAR, MILITARY, DEFENCE, SPACE, R & D, INUDSTRIAL RELATED or
> whatever
> > >>COMPUTERISED automation systems.  And general use of 0, India may/may
> > not
> > >>uses minimal charge. We (Indians) are so kind enough to allow
> countries
> > to
> > >>use 0 for general purposes. It depends again.
> > >>
> > >>Khalls, junaid and his favorite batch finished.  Forget nuclear
> > dispatch,
> > >>for moving them people need INDIA permission.
> > >>
> > >>We (Indians) can do this practically with a proper planning and need a
> > >>motivated, will powered political system to execute this.  This is
> > feasible
> > >>99%.
> > >>
> > >>Those 9 points are a few I mentioned there are many more.
> > >>
> > >>--On points 1,2,3
> > >>You are not supposed to speak on Maharana Pratap, Shivaji and Sadhus
> > Shri
> > >>Pandit Nehru, Gandhi, rest of the patriots (Indian).  Because they are
> > all
> > >>sadhus and very kind hearted in nature.  You will never compare them
> > with
> > >>Aurangazeb.
> > >>For your kind information on India (Akhand Bharat) and its boarders
> from
> > >>Alexander to British
> > >>1)      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidhartha
> > >>2)      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asoka
> > >>3)      http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/origin.html#KailasYatra
> > >>4)      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satavahana
> > >>
> > >>For your better understanding
> > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asian_Stone_Age
> > >>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/EpicIndia.jpg
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>-- On points 4,5
> > >>Koh-e-noor, Peacock throne, Shah-e-jahan, Nadir-shaw your writing are
> in
> > >>genuine, I request you to please
> > >>
> > >>1)      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh-e_Noor_Diamond
> > >>2)      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacock_Throne
> > >>
> > >>-- On points 6,7,8
> > >>Zinna tower is there at several places in India.  And Zinna daughter
> is
> > >>dying to live for her rest of the life as she did it till her teenage
> > >>(before partition), in zinna home at Mumbai.  |This is the fact and
> for
> > your
> > >>kind information. I pity for Jinnah, for Jinnah daughter and Jinnah
> > sister
> > >>who migrated to Pakistan during partition.  Once again JAMMU AND
> KASHMIR
> > is
> > >>an Integral part of India with those of illegal occupations from
> > Pakistan
> > >>and China. We can think towards Akhand Bharat, if Junaid or like
> > >>personalities/world can visit Pakistan and ask them to vacate peaks
> > occupied
> > >>and offered.
> > >>Junaid can shout jihad there and see the reflections.  If alive India
> is
> > >>ready welcome the kid.
> > >>
> > >>Regards,
> > >>Dhatri.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>---------------------------------
> > >>Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> story.
> > >>Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
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