[Reader-list] Lists and assaults

Sat Sep 15 18:03:04 IST 2007

Dear Pawan,

My prayers for you are sincere because from my
experiences in Kashmir, I have realized that hate and
anger take a person nowhere. Building walls and
refusing to see are very easy. It is being able to
talk with each other with sincerity in intent that is
excruciatingly difficult. I have myself faced hurt and
betrayal in Kashmir but that does not come in my way
of seeing the reality in Kashmir. Just as you are in
exile, I live in a state of emotional exile from the
Valley which I consider home too. Yet, I cannot allow
my emotions to blind me, to build walls and not see
the truth.

You have as yet not responded to my question:

"You say: "When they talk about freedom of expression
that means the
liberty to portray a terrorist as a moderan day
Gandhi." - now if you
have any sense of honesty, sincerity, and integrity,
then go back to all the discussions we have had which
say anything to the effect of "we love Yasin Malik and
he is modern day Gandhi". Dig out one email which says
this and I will bow before your lordship, without
hesitation, that you are right and some of us behind
these computer screens are wrong."

I am waiting to be humbled.

Peace be with you and peace in your heart and peace in
my heart. My sincere prayers.

Zainab

--- Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for your prayers ........
> 
> On 9/15/07, Zainab Bawa <zainabbawa at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Pawan,
> >
> > Your email clearly shows that what you are
> interested
> > in is a show of who
> > has greater number of followers and who has
> greater
> > strength. Why not have
> > a physical fight instead of a list fight? I am
> willing
> > to take you on if
> > that is the case.
> >
> > You say: "> When they talk about freedom of
> expression
> > , that means the
> > liberty to > portray a terrorist as a moderan day
> > Gandhi." - now if you
> > have any sense of honesty, sincerity, and
> integrity,
> > then go back to all
> > the discussions we have had which say anything to
> the
> > effect of "we love
> > Yasin Malik and he is modern day Gandhi". Dig out
> one
> > email which says this
> > and I will bow before your lordship, without
> > hesitation, that you are right
> > and some of us behind these computer screens are
> > wrong. At the end of the
> > day brother, what you are interested in is proving
> > yourself right and
> > jeering at others saying that they are wrong. What
> > kind of
> > debate/argument/stand is this?
> >
> > If at the end of the day, your intention is to
> bring
> > Yasin malik to the
> > book, then there is a court of law out there,
> however
> > flawed it may be. Go
> > to the court and fight your battles there. Go,
> take on
> > Yasin malik if you
> > have the guts to. What are you trying to prove
> here?
> > Why not bare yourself
> > totally on this list saying what is it exactly
> that
> > you want? No point in
> > beating about the bush, eh?
> >
> > Peace be with you and peace in your heart. My
> sincere
> > prayers.
> >
> > Zainab
> >
> >
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> > >    1. Re: How CPM blocked the screening of
> Taurus
> > > (Partha Dasgupta)
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> > >    3. Re: Lists and assaults (Pawan Durani)
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> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:18:00 +0530
> > > From: "Partha Dasgupta" <parthaekka at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] How CPM blocked the
> > > screening of Taurus
> > > To: "Gargi Sen" <sen.gargi at gmail.com>
> > > Cc: readerlist <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > > Message-ID:
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> > >
> >
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> > >
> > > Dear Gargi,
> > >
> > > Actually, haven't figured out the acronym as
> yet. In
> > > fact, figured out the
> > > 'SAP' one only when Shuddha clarified. Was a bit
> > > surprised to see strong
> > > Indian patriots using Americanism. Guess some of
> the
> > > virus of
> > > intellectualism has infected them as well.
> > >
> > > Whether CPM or whatever, the reason a human
> being
> > > has a heart and a mind is
> > > that the folks up there felt that both were
> required
> > > to have a balanced life
> > > (though we couldn't live without either) and a
> > > balanced decision.
> > >
> > > Just as I wouldn't sacrifice my children because
> a
> > > tantric demands human
> > > sacrifice, and just as I fought a group of my
> > > friends in the frenzy of a mob
> > > who wanted to torch a bus - I will disagree here
> as
> > > well, because staying
> > > silent is what has allowed monsters like Hitler
> the
> > > freedom to make the
> > > loudest mouth the ruler.
> > >
> > > When there is a scab on a wound, does one always
> > > tear it off to force
> > > bleeding and infection or cover it to heal? Yet,
> > > this scab is being
> > > scratched again and again with howls of "look,
> I'm
> > > bleeding"
> > >
> > > I'm not qualified enough to say which hospital
> is
> > > required here, but I do
> > > know that serious help is required before our
> > > silence lets them become the
> > > loudest voices, and we leave our children in a
> > > narrow, hate driven society.
> > >
> > > Rgds, Partha
> > > ..............
> > >
> > > On 9/15/07, Gargi Sen <sen.gargi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Dear Partha,
> > > > Leave it. To the AR2KP+VD (hope you have
> figured
> > > this acronym out) bunch
> > > > anyone claiming to be a Marxist or a communist
> is
> > > a card carrying CPM
> > > > member. To their worldview it is not possible
> to
> > > be a communist and not be
> > > > CPM (although wonder why don't they pull out
> the
> > > CPI, Forward Block and the
> > > > n number of left parties!)
> > > > So the AR2KP bunch are trying to tell us â"
> at
> > > least many on the list who
> > > > believe in free speech,  even that speech that
> one
> > > isn't in agreement with
> > > > or does not like or feels uncomfortable with
> â"
> > > that here is your brethren
> > > > doing exactly what you are telling us to not
> do.
> > > And hence, where is your
> > > > moral high ground?
> > > > Let children have simple pleasures in life
> Partha
> 
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Zainab Bawa 
Mumbai 

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