[Reader-list] IPR/PATENTING OVER0http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/EpicIndia.jpg

Mon Sep 17 12:53:55 IST 2007

Dear all, 
 it is common sense that tell us that as a  child is born, mother is truth, father is faith, as the child grows, it gets all the trappings of faith, when child is born it does not get faith, it is told by its mother, that some male is his / her father, it is faith. So also in society, where knowledge ends, faith commences. 
   Gita for me is the way of life far above the religious scriptures, as it shows the way of life, secrets of knowledge where  we get answers to questions that arise in our intellect about all that is material, intellectual and spiritual. It does not distinguish the humans on "caste' as we see the castes  today, it talks of work or vocation of an individual in society and his duties to society and exhorts him to do his work in society and serve the society without waiting for the fruits of his good work, submit all the actions to the supreme soul, so that his soul identifies itself with supreme soul that is GOD, called by any name, Shiva, Ram, Christ or Allah. As the names are only by choice of the faithful to their percieved GOD, who is one for all humanity, living beings in form or in Sakara roop, or in Nirvikara swaroop a super soul of all the souls, all actions have reactions, some immediate, some menifest, some delayed reactions to every action in society.
   The day,  all humans understand their role in society to live life with compassion and affection to all in society, 
 be responsible and responsive to others in society and identify their interest with that of society, rise above greed and selfish interests, all in society will have better life, as ills in society will lose out to good in society. Good of the individuals in society is GOD to all in society.
----- Original Message -----
From: we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, September 15, 2007 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] ****IPR/PATENTING OVER0****http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/EpicIndia.jpg
To: Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com>
Cc: radhikarajen at vsnl.net, readerlist <reader-list at sarai.net>, Jeebesh Bagchi <jeebesh at sarai.net>

> Dear Partha,
>   
>           
>  If I remember Mr Bagchi comments not to write the personal 
> issues, I should not attend to your posts, but some thing refrains 
> me.  As per my knowledge SARAI reader list voice,
>  reach many places in the world.  Any way let me write by quoting 
> BHAGAVATGEETA,   
>  sadrsam cestate svasyah 
> prakrter jnanavan api 
> prakrtim yanti bhutani 
> nigrahah kim karisyati
> 
> Everyone gets to his own innate nature
> That is his inherent potential
> That is his swadharma
> The wise one also tries to
> Do karma according to his swadharma
> How can anyones opinion
> Or renouncing (nigrahah) anything
> Make a difference in this situation? ||3:33||
> 
> indriyasyendriyasyarthe 
> raga-dvesau vyavasthitau 
> tayor na vasam agacchet 
> tau hy asya paripanthinau
> 
> The indriyas have potential energy
> There is always a momentum
> One should know of the ragas and dweshas
> That resides in every indriyas
> Ready to hijack the person as a whole
> And take him away from the 
> Path that leads to the center
> (raga = attachments, dwesha = aversion, jealosy). ||3:34|| 
> 
> sreyan sva-dharmo vigunah 
> para-dharmat svanusthitat 
> sva-dharme nidhanam sreyah 
> para-dharmo bhayavahah
> 
> Know and follow your swadharma
> That is your aptitude
> It is always better to die
> Following your own dharma
> 
> Following someone elses path 
> And someone elses dharma 
> Is against the very personal nature of our being
> This is against the very aptitude (swadharma)
> And can potentially lead to fear inside.
> (Fear of the unknown and 
> The fear of being against ones nature) ||3:35||    
>  I dont know what do you expect by writing that you are Hindu and 
> Indian married to christian.  I am not the right person to 
> question about your life!
>   
>  I am not interested to ask that Christian is HINDU(I mean 
> Indian)? BRITISH? GERMAN? US? 
>  I am not interested to know you are advicing your fellow Indians 
> wherever reading this, too follow the same as you did?
>  I am not interested to ask you dont you find a good Hindu girl 
> either in greater BANGLA or anywhere in the world?
>  I am not interested to ask you, that "Dont you find a good human 
> being among Indians living in the world"
>   
>  I am not interested to know what for you did that? Might thought 
> that you were the head of the heads by that time? or just saying 
> on SARAI for timebeing to contradict me or for any other reason?
>   
>    
>  I am not worried about the way your posts directed to SARAI, but 
> let me ask you
>   
>  1)Being a great human being got married to another great human 
> being and never worried about what dharma that the child will 
> follow,  Where are you living now? Your own home or the home built 
> by your parents?
>   
>  Because I astonished by reading TOI news recently stating that,  
> at the old age of 88 Zinnah
>  daughter feeling diehard to live their childhood home at MUMBAI. 
> Forget rest of all nonsense as per you, but if you living away 
> from your parents being a great human being what are your feeling? 
> Definitely you should have feelings, because you are a great 
> human being so What to post next is upto you.
>   
>   
>  Next regarding BRAHMINS,  brahmins are just for name sake.  The 
> fact is brahmins lost their whatever you say, when "INDIRA 
> PRIYADARSINI" got married to a Parsi, I believe.  But as they are 
> also living beings on this earth like anybody continuing their 
> journey struggling for existance under the Dharma-Adharma 
> discrimination.  
>   
>   
>   
>   I noticed that you forget to add your signature 
>  "Partha Dasgupta (9811047132)
> http://www.jaxtr.com/parthaekka "   in your succesive mails. 
>   
>   
>  Regards,
>  Dhatri.
> 
> Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
> Fascinating read about the origin of zero.
> 
> And I was wrong about India first using the symbol of zero in it's 
> curent form.
> 
> India used a dot to signify zero while the Chinese used the open 
> circle that we use today. 
> 
> Of course, we can dismiss it as 'misinformation by foreign hand' 
> if it's inconvenient, so don't worry.
> 
> Rgds, Partha
> .................................
> 
>  On 9/15/07, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:  Dear 
> Dhatri,
> I'm proud to be a Hindu, but before that I'm proud to be an Indian.
> 
> You'd probably not count me as a Hindu (and therefore not an 
> Indian) as I'm married to a Christian. And I will not apologise as 
> I married a wonderful human being whom I'm very proud of. I did 
> not marry her caste or religion. For that matter, I don't care 
> what relegion my children follow as long as they grow up to be 
> good human beings. 
> 
> I do hope that you do not exclude all but Hindu's in India... and 
> then move on to push out every one but brahmins.
> 
> India was not won only by Hindu's. And do try and remember that 
> tribals are not Hindu's. They follow yakshas and yakshi's and not 
> the trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva which happens to be the 
> definition of a Hindu. 
> 
> You claim to be proud of India and in the same breath knock the 
> elected representatives of India.
> 
> Do look at facts. Do look at how you keep contradicting yourself 
> time and again.
> 
> Rgds, Partha  
> 
>  On 9/15/07, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:   
> 
> radhikarajen at vsnl.net wrote:  I am proud to be hindu, it makes me 
> tolerent, but not impotent, it makes me clever but not coward, 
> that I tolerate does not mean that I am quiet, I plan to 
> annihilate the opponents with my sama ,dana, bheda and finally 
> danda, as dandam dashagunam bhaveth. I foresee the future where 
> hindus divided by divisive politics unite together out of the 
> caste and class conundrums, as the political parties wake up from 
> their selfish greedy approach to seek power by part time 
> appeasement in the guise of "secular" rule has created more 
> discrimination than good rule of law. Next generation is ready now 
> and is waiting for a leader and chanakyas India, that is my 
> hindustan has all novel ideas of his, to conquer the evil for good 
> of the society. 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: we wi
> Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 pm
> Subject: ****IPR/PATENTING OVER 0**** 
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/EpicIndia.jpg 
> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> 
> > Dear Readers including Junaid in particular,
> >
> > Your Must understand that Dhatri is a pen name like junaid from 
> > Gujarat . If you go deeper meaning for this pen name Dhatri, 
> > Dhatri == Earth. Santi, Sama, Dama are qualities of Mother
> > Earth. If you have patience to look at these terms just go
> > through the entire link or just fire a find (Cntl+F) and type
> > these terms over there. 
> >
> > http://www.upnaway.com/~bindu/anantayogaweb/mind/mindchap37.htm 
> >
> > To hell with the junaid sympathy, let me compose with a pity: - 
> >
> > I have nothing to do with RSS, Sanghparivar, Vhp, Sadhu, Santh
> > parishaths, Madras's and Junaid party elsewhere and feelings.
> > India HINDU comes first and whatever comes is later. As a 
> Citizen 
> > of India, Valid Passport holder, It's my Constitutional right to
> > vote as per my choice and live. Those all who never completed
> > schooling and aware of India
> > Will never understand this simple thing. I think this suffices 
> > to enlighten those narrowly shattered closed brains.
> >
> > Focusing on the topic now,
> >
> > What is USA will do is subject to change. Stop writing
> > converse logic and in REVERSE WAY. Be Positive always. 
> > >If you remember Pakistan also detonated its nuclear weapons in
> > the >same month as India, so perhaps they might reply by
> > dispatching some >of them into India if India goes for hot 
> chases, 
> > surgical strikes, >masala dosas, bhel pooris etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > YOU FORGET TO ADD wadapav, pohe, kachori (sweet things like
> > India).
> >
> > Let me add Chillies (spicy). By applying Mathematical 
> >
> > Induction,on Junaid statement
> > "Pakistani nuclear weapons won't reach US democrat"
> >
> > so as the same will be true and applicable that "they will not
> > move out of their depots wherever they are". I will prove it how 
> > India can execute it later.
> >
> > --Buddhism is just a flavor of Hinduism. As I quoted earlier
> >
> > Yada yada hi dharmasya Glanir bhavati bharata
> > Abhyutthanam adharmasya Tadatmanam srjamy aham 
> > TRANSLATION
> > Whenever and wherever there is decay of righteousness, O
> > Bharata, and a rise of unrighteousness then I manifest myself!
> > OR
> > Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, 
> > O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion--at
> > that time I descend myself.
> > So Sidhartha, or Gowtham Buddha, or Buddha for simple
> > understanding is the 9th incarnation (out of 10) and one more 
> > remaining to come. The followers of Buddhism now misunderstood
> > it.
> >
> > --And on Yoga as an alternative way that India freshly offers to
> > the world or a bunch of people like you. What to do if 
> > people/countries like you are betraying then bullying is the last
> > sort of option. I don't know how many of the readers aware of
> > this but happy to quote from the first Para of the post
> > 
> > --Dandam dasa gunam bhaveth 
> >
> > 
> http://ndtv.com/mb/readreply.asp?topicid=1707&id=629543&tablename=Business 
> > --On 0,
> > Though you agreed and admitted, it shows you lack of knowledge, 
> > understanding and vision. Your English usage, smartness and
> > joviality (professor student) and your will in favor/against
> > PATENTING and IPR is nothing to do with the practicalities. You
> > may say that countries/you can use 0 as "orez" in your/their OWN 
> > WAY. No problem you/countries can write whatever the way they
> > wish to use.
> >
> > I would like to bring a point on WTO, probably most of the
> > members aware that except a few all countries signed WTO Free 
> > trade Geneva pact. Under this India can claim Patents/IPR over 0.
> > How is this useful and applicable to India? Let me explain more
> > scientifically. Hitech world use computers day-to-day life
> > everywhere. Computers operate on "bit". A bit is nothing but a 
> > binary digit (0 or 1). If India claim and get Patenting and IPR
> > over 0, those all countries under the cover of WTO Pact should
> > take the permission from India to operate their ELECTRICAL,
> > NUCLEAR, MILITARY, DEFENCE, SPACE, R & D, INUDSTRIAL RELATED or 
> > whatever COMPUTERISED automation systems. And general use of 0,
> > India may/may not uses minimal charge. We (Indians) are so kind
> > enough to allow countries to use 0 for general purposes. It
> > depends again. 
> >
> > Khalls, junaid and his favorite batch finished. Forget nuclear
> > dispatch, formoving them people need INDIA permission.
> >
> > We (Indians) can do this practically with a proper planning and 
> > need a motivated, will powered political system to execute this.
> > This is feasible 99%.
> >
> > Those 9 points are a few I mentioned there are many more.
> >
> > --On points 1,2,3
> > You are not supposed to speak on Maharana Pratap, Shivaji and 
> > Sadhus Shri Pandit Nehru, Gandhi, rest of the patriots (Indian).
> > Because they are all sadhus and very kind hearted in nature. You
> > will never compare them with Aurangazeb.
> > For your kind information on India (Akhand Bharat) and its 
> > boarders from Alexander to British
> > 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidhartha
> > 2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asoka 
> > 3) http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/origin.html#KailasYatra
> > 4) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satavahana 
> >
> > For your better understanding
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asian_Stone_Age 
> > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/EpicIndia.jpg
> >
> >
> > -- On points 4,5
> > Koh-e-noor, Peacock throne, Shah-e-jahan, Nadir-shaw your
> > writing are in genuine, I request you to please 
> >
> > 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh-e_Noor_Diamond
> > 2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacock_Throne 
> >
> > -- On points 6,7,8
> > Zinna tower is there at several places in India. And Zinna
> > daughter is dying to live for her rest of the life as she did it
> > till her teenage (before partition), in zinna home at Mumbai. 
> > |This is the fact and for your kind information. I pity for
> > Jinnah, for Jinnah daughter and Jinnah sister who migrated to
> > Pakistan during partition. Once again JAMMU AND KASHMIR is an
> > Integral part of India with those of illegal occupations from 
> > Pakistan and China. We can think towards Akhand Bharat, if Junaid
> > or like personalities/world can visit Pakistan and ask them to
> > vacate peaks occupied and offered.
> > Junaid can shout jihad there and see the reflections. If alive 
> > India is ready welcome the kid.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dhatri.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your
> > story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. 
> >
> 
> 
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