[Reader-list] Unannounced curbs on media in Jammu

Sun Aug 3 00:30:33 IST 2008

Shivamji,

In Kashmir, Protests were organised by Huriyat, JKLF, NC, PDP etc.

In Jammu, Protests are being organised by the common people and just
supported by BJP, VHP, RSS.

Hope you understand the difference.

If you still don't then you better catch the next flight to Jammu and be
there among the people.

*P.S.* - "The Hindu" newspaper which has a history of giving coverage to
almost all sections; today didn't even mention about the 2 deaths in Jammu
or protests.

On the other hand, JKLF Terrorist Yasin Malik organised press conf. in an
Hotel in Kashmir was given wide coverage in Media. He said Pandits are
"FANATICS" and "COMMUNAL". I wonder if he has a mirror at home; or else he
is turning blind on both eyes.

God Bless you Journalist.

Regards
Aditya Raj Kaul

On 8/2/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Shivam,
> I would still say that you are too obsessed with anti Indian and anti
> Kashmiri Pandit stand,inspite of you being a friend.
>
> I wanted to reply to your post where you wanted the readers to read the
> following story [
> http://tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne090808divided_house.asp
> ] <http://tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne090808divided_house.asp>
>
> I wrote a reply and chose not to post it for i did not want to to give
> importance your OBSESSION.
>
> Your problem with Jammu struggle goes deep into your love for anti
> establishment . When Kashmiri muslims  were agitating against providing
> decent facilities to Amarnath , you want ahead and posted an article with
> subject Amarnath row: Azadi sentiment gets a fillip [
> http://shivamvij.com/2008/07/09/amarnath-row-azadi-sentiment-gets-a-fillip/
> ]
>
> What has escaped you is almost 3 weeks of curfew in jammu , shoot at sight
> orders and atrocities committed on hindu population of Jammu by muslim
> police.
>
> Why Shivam ? What are you made of ?
>
> If you recollect the time when you were with tehelka and it's summit I
> asked
> Mehbooba a question about Kashmiri Hindus, she said that Kashmiri hindus
> were welcome in Kashmir as visitors and tourists , i wonder why havent that
> thing hit you term her as communal .
>
> And neither have you evercalled Geelani , Yasin and Mirwaiz as one ?
>
> As a Jouro, i know where you stand for truth.
>
> Pawan
> www.thekashmir.wordpress.com
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear Pawan,
> >
> > On 7 July I had posted a similar news article about an attack on
> > journalists in Srinagar. See
> >
> >
> http://readerlist.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2008/07/07/reader-list-crpf-attacks-journalists-in-srinagar.html
> >
> > This one that you post about Jammu claims that journalists have been
> > threatened ("Hurry up, turn or you will face the consequences"). But
> > in that case journalists were beaten up. I had in my post even pointed
> > out that such an attack in any other state capital would have received
> > attention in the national/Delhi media, over which my friend Aditya Raj
> > Kaul certainly has more influence than Syed Ali Shah Geelani.
> >
> > You had replied that post of mine, thus: "Article 370......they live
> > with it ...they should die with it ...their
> > prefrence ....they have a separate constitution ,.....let them appeal
> under
> > RPC acts......."
> >
> > Now I would have liked to respond to that, but I didn't because you
> > had made a grave personal accusation which caused some self-doubt. You
> > had written, "Your obsession is just too compulsive." I thought,
> > perhaps Pawan has a point after all - not about the Ranbir Penal Code
> > but about my being unable to see out of my box because of being
> > obsessed with it.
> >
> > But now, you post an article about threats and "unannounced curbs" on
> > the media in another part of the state, Jammu, which is also governed
> > by the Ranbir rather than the Indian Penal Code. You not only
> > *condemn* an attack on journalists in Jammu despite Jammu also being
> > governed by the RPC, but also you go on to call upon *all* members of
> > this list in joining you in the act of condemnation of this reported
> > act of reporters being prevented from doing their job under duress.
> >
> > Now I think that the Hindi press in Jammu is unabashedly communal, its
> > front-page headlines are more interested in stoking passions rather
> > than disseminating news. What else could you expect from papers like
> > Dainik Jagran, which have a documented record of causing deaths in
> > communal conflicts and aligning itself with the anti-Muslim RSS (
> > http://www.thehoot.org/web/home/searchdetail.php?sid=559&bg=1 ).
> >
> > Now, despite this background, I join you in condemning these
> > unannounced curbs on the media in Jammu, if the report is true, no
> > matter what the magnitude of this exercise of conflict-related
> > censorship is. In other words, I am saying that I condemn this even if
> > the security personnel were instructed to do so only to prevent the
> > press from stoking further passions, causing more deaths and 'unrest'.
> >
> > I condemn the act for the following reasons:
> >
> > Firstly, I am against censorship unless it is being used to prevent
> > very imminent, direct violence. In this case I think what is required
> > is better regulatory mechanism than a toothless Press Council of India
> > to prevent papers like Dainik Jagran from stoking communal passions.
> >
> > Secondly, even if I feel relieved that the police is preventing the
> > journalists with an honourable intention, I can't support the act for
> > reasons of consistency. For I can then not argue against censorship in
> > Srinagar by the CRPF, using actual violence to prevent publication of
> > reports about the protest outside the Hazratbal shrine. The Indian
> > state can justly claim that it was doing so because the journalists
> > and protesters were seeking/promoting secession.
> >
> > To cut a long story short, would you please explain why you want us to
> > join you in condemning censorship and harassment of journalists in
> > Jammu even though you refused, on 7 July, to condemn the beating up of
> > journalists in Srinagar with lathis just because the state does not
> > follow the Indian Penal Code? I mean, why shouldn't we wait for India
> > establish "full flow of the Indian constitution" in Jammu *&* Kashmir
> > before we can condemn the violation of that Constitution - as is your
> > argument for Srinagar?
> >
> > Every Kashmir-related post on this list that you find uncomfortable,
> > you either ignore it or just say, "You don't know the facts." You
> > don't by extension state what the alleged lie is and what the facts
> > are. But the least one expects is consistency from you. This
> > discrepancy amounts to intellectual dishonesty. It forces me to
> > conclude that you don't care if Muslim journalists are beaten to death
> > but you have every concern for Hindu journalists. Such blatantly
> > communal sentiments are not expected from someone who constantly
> > reminds us of having been on the receiving end of Kashmiri Muslim
> > communalism.
> >
> > However, perhaps you have an explanation, and perhaps I am
> > over-reaction. I look forward to your response.
> >
> > warmly,
> > shivam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Let us all condemn this act.
> > >
> >
> http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/unannounced-curbs-on-media-in-jammu_10079039.html
> > >
> > > Unannounced curbs on media in Jammu
> > >
> > > Jammu, Aug 2 (IANS) "Sorry! Press is not allowed," that is the curt
> > answer
> > > to the pleas of journalists who want to move in Jammu city to cover the
> > > ongoing riots over the Amarnath land row. Any other person with an
> > identity
> > > card or a curfew pass is signaled to move on. But reporters are told:
> > "Hurry
> > > up, turn or you will face the consequences."
> > >
> > > A group of reporters and cameramen trying to enter the walled city were
> > > stopped at Bikram Chowk Saturday and told to "go back".
> > >
> > > "These are the orders from the higher authorities, we cannot do
> > anything," a
> > > police official on duty at the spot told the scribes.
> > >
> > > Journalists at many places like Rehari, Shakti Nagar, Parade, Pacca
> Danga
> > > and Link Road areas were not allowed to step out of their houses.
> > >
> > > There was no official word as to why the curbs were imposed on media.
> > >
> > > No official was available for comments and the phone calls went
> > unanswered.
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