[Reader-list] Please Think Before You Write the Subject Line

[Pawan Durani]

Some people never change, interestingly in february 2007, a person had
written the following to Shivam :
http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/02/20/dear-shivam-vij/

Dear Shivam vij ,

If you want to bash Hinduism/caste system/whatever, do it based on
*solid* understanding
of the issue you're writing about. But when you write absolute
nonsense<http://www.shivamvij.com/2007/02/the-stain-that-just-wont-wash.html>
that
stems from the dark depths of your abysmal ignorance,

Not that I expect you to condescend and respond to this post…

PS: No wonder this appeared in *Tehelka*.


I am awaiting the next post from dear friend Shivam. He
has definitely arrived.

Jeeve Jeeve "Abysmal Ignorance" Jeeve .

Yahan Kya Chalega ...Abysmal Ignorance

Regards

Pawan Durani







On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net>wrote:

> Dear Shivam.
>
> I was saddened to see that you had written "Hindu Terrorism in Jammu"
> in the subject line of your recent post. Also, I think your remark
> about KP "sanskars" in a previous post were not in good taste, I was
> saddened to read them.
>
> Arguing against the oppression that is carried out in the Kashmir
> valley by the Indian state does not mean that we have to vilify any
> community. And even if communities get vilified in this debate by
> some of its participants, I expect you not to reciprocate in kind. As
> a journalist whose work I respect, I expect much better of you.
>
> I must point out to you that nowhere in the report  that you had
> forwarded does it say that a 'Hindu' mob attacked the Congress
> politician, or that they were raising 'Hindu' slogans, (even if we
> assume that they were nominally Hindu) it merely says that they were
> raising 'Anti-Congress, PDP and NC" slogans.  And a mob attack,
> though reprehensible, is not an act of terrorism. To say it is to
> mirror the tactics of those who poison every discussion on these
> matters (all over the world) by adding the prefix "Islamic" to
> terrorism. It is as ridiculous to talk about Islamic or Hindu
> terrorism as it is to speak of Islamic of Hindu agriculture or mining.
>
> Crowds in the Kashmir valley often raise, "Anti Congress, PDP and NC
> slogans" and they are generally Muslim crowds, and sometimes they set
> fire to vehicles and ransack homes. Just as it would be totally
> inappropriate to tag such an episode as an instance of "Muslim"
> terrorism, so, too I think it is totally inappropriate and uncalled
> for on your part to tag this report with the headline "Hindu
> Terrorism in Jammu"
>
> This kind of rhetorical grandstanding does not help anyone, and I
> would urge everyone, especially Shivam, to be restrained and
> thoughtful while forwarding posts.
>
> best,
>
> Shuddha
>
>
>
> On 22-Aug-08, at 3:17 PM, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् wrote:
>
> > Jammu: Protesters attack Congress leader
> >
> > 22 Aug 2008, 0045 hrs IST,TNN
> > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/
> > Jammu_tense_protesters_attack_police_station/articleshow/3389045.cms
> >
> >
> > JAMMU/SRINAGAR: There was no let up in violent protests against the
> > revocation of forestland transfer to the Amarnath Shrine Board on
> > Thursday, as senior Congress leader and former J&K deputy chief
> > minister Mangat Ram Sharma had a narrow escape when protesters
> > attacked him at Bhagwatinagar in Jammu. ( Watch )
> >
> > SSP S D S Jamwal said Sharma was attacked while he was visiting a
> > doctor with his grandson. "Protesters attacked his vehicle with rods
> > and stones," he said. Sources said a cop saved Sharma from the
> > rampaging mob and whisked him away on his scooter. Raising
> > anti-Congress, PDP and NC slogans, the protesters set three cars in
> > Sharma's cavalcade on fire. "Later, the mob also torched a nearby
> > police nakka," a police officer said.
> >
> > Sharma has been at the receiving end of the Amarnath protesters; mobs
> > have twice attacked his house in Jammu's upmarket Gandhi Nagar
> > neighbourhood. Day curfew, meanwhile, was lifted from Jammu and
> > Udhampur districts, while it was relaxed for varying periods in other
> > areas of the province. Curfew was reimposed in Jammu after violent
> > protests on Wednesday, the third and final day of Shri Amarnath Yatra
> > Sangarsh Samiti (SASS)'s 'Jail Bharo Andolan'.
> >
> > Authorities relaxed curfew for three hours in Kishtwar town, the scene
> > of communal clashes on August 12 that left two people dead and several
> > others injured. "Curfew was relaxed for 11 hours in Samba," a senior
> > official said.
> >
> > A large number of people turned up for Samiti's scheduled "funeral
> > ceremony of Union government" programme in Jammu. Reports from across
> > Jammu region said similar processions were carried out "to register
> > protest against Centre's silence over the Jammu agitation".
> >
> > The Valley remained largely peaceful for the third consecutive day,
> > after 10 days of violent street protests against the alleged economic
> > blockade left at least 22 people dead.
> >
> > Police resorted to teargas shelling and mild baton charge to disperse
> > protesters at Munawarabad in old Srinagar. "The protesters were trying
> > to march towards United Nations Military Observers' office," an
> > official said. He said no one was hurt in police action.
> >
> > Students continued to boycott classes and took to streets. "The
> > indiscriminate use of power proves that New Delhi wants to suppress
> > Kashmiris," Rafiqa Akhtar of prestigious Women's college said. She
> > said college students' protests prove that even youth are against
> > "imperialism".
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> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
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