[Reader-list] FW: Attacks on Minorities in Kashmir Valley

[Pawan Durani]

Hello Murtaza ,
In the morning your figures of Muslim causalities in Kashmir was 150000 and
now it has climbed down to 100000.

50000 decline in few hours.

Is there any more scope of reduction ???


Pawan





On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Kashmir Affairs <kashaffairs at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

> Dear Sonia,
> I have very recently asked Vijay to come and discuss issues on public
> forums. I would like you to forward it to him and of course Vijay is most
> welcome to 'defend' himself.
> Honestly, his mail made me sick and only one question came to my mind. Why
> do Pandits hate us....all of us Kashmiris. And they keep on manufacturing
> stories.
> Regardless of 209 Pandits killed in Kashmir in comparison to more than
> 100,000 Muslims, i have always felt their pain despite the fact that we have
> been at their as well as Indian state's receiving end. My question to Vijay
> is has he ever felt my pain and thousands who have been tortured to death.
> Has he ever condemned the killings of Kashmiris at the hands of Indian
> paramilitary forces.
> Sick as it may get, now he is manufacturing stories. I wish i could use
> anything stronger than condemnation to him.
>
> Murtaza
>
> ----
> Murtaza Shibli
> www.kashmiraffaris.org
>
> --- On Sat, 30/8/08, S. Jabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: S. Jabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] FW: Attacks on Minorities in Kashmir Valley
> To: "Kashmir Affairs" <kashaffairs at yahoo.co.uk>, "Sarai" <
> reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Saturday, 30 August, 2008, 10:04 AM
>
> Wow, that's pretty strong language, Murtaza.  You know Vijay, as I do.  In
> all these years I really can't say I've seen him being communal or even
> using communal language in anything he's written or advocated.  I think he
> ought to have a chance in defending himself.  Will you forward this
> discussion or should I?
>
> I really posted his email in good faith thinking it may help diffuse some
> of
> this horrid Jammu Hindu/Pandit-Kashmiri Muslim divide that's dominated the
> Reader's List for some time, little realizing that this too will add fuel
> to
> the fire.  What a pity.
>
> sj
>
>
> On 8/30/08 2:24 PM, "Kashmir Affairs" <kashaffairs at yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Sonia,
> I would like to take this opportunity to expressly condemn Vijay Sazwal
> > for yet again playing mischif against Kashmiri Muslims. In his
> 'appreciating
> > guise' on Kashmiri Civil Society, he is carrying on his propaganda
> against
> > Muslims and cooking up stories about imaginery harrassement. Pandit
> groups,
> > mainly believed to be working for IB, have been doing this for more than
> two
> > decades now.
> If Vijay is telling the truth, which i don't believe, he must
> > mention the incidents rather than spreading false stories. As much i
> > appreciate personal contact with him i have had with with for few years
> now, I
> > have to condemn him for his mischief and spreading lies against the
> Kashmiri
> > Muslims majority at the behest of I don't know who. By doing it once
> again, he
> > has sided with rabid-anti-Kashmiri forces including various Pandit
> groups,
> who
> > are allegedly being spreading rumours and propaganda against Kashmiris. A
> > personal friend, Prof. Rattan Lal Hangloo, is on record about Vijay
> Sazwal
> > launching a campaign against Prof. Hangloo for not blaming Kashmiri
> Muslims
> > and Islam for the current trouble in Kashmir. Moreover, Vijay has been
> part of
> > propaganda brigade that has been spreading lies about Kashmiri Muslims
> and
> > talking about so-called Holocaust of Pandits when only 209 Pandits died
> in
> the
> > crisis as compared to 150,000 Muslims majority of them by the
>  Indian army and
> > paramilitary forces.
>
> I don't see any appreciation in Vijay's letter. It is
> > all venomous propganda against the Muslims.
> best,
> Murtaza
>
> --- On Sat,
> > 30/8/08, S. Jabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: S. Jabbar
> > <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Reader-list] FW: Attacks on Minorities in
> > Kashmir Valley
> To: "Sarai" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Saturday, 30 August,
> > 2008, 7:56 AM
>
> A note of appreciation from a Pandit organisation for the
> > appeal sent out by
> Khurram and others.
>
>
> ------ Forwarded Message
> From: "Dr.
> > Vijay Sazawal" <sazawal at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:41:58 -0400
> To:
> > <vks at kashmirforum.org>
> Subject: Attacks on Minorities in Kashmir Valley
>
> Dear
> > Friend,
>
> I am sending this note to just a few friends in the valley to let
> > them know
> that the minority community currently residing in the valley - which
> > is down
> to a few thousand now - greatly appreciates the following gesture by
> > the
> civil society in Kashmir (see attached story in the Kashmir Observer).
>
> I
> > have spoken to valley based Kashmiri Pandits almost on a daily basis.
> > Even
> though the local media did not highlight the fears of the minority
> > community
> earlier, the reality is that last week they had a very rough time.
> > There
> were numerous incidents in Pulwama, Anantnag, and Srinagar and
> > Baramulla
> where Pandit homes or persons were surrounded by a few ruffians
> > and
> subjected to oral threats ranging from, "Are you still here - when are
> > you
> going away to Jammu," to "time has come to burn your place and we
> will
> > not
> let you or your family escape."
>
> Again, I want to make it clear that I
> > hold no one among you or any leader
> among the majority community responsible
> > for it. But the reality is that it
> did happen and it is to the credit of a few
> > Pandit leaders who calmed the
> community down. I will appreciate if journalists
> > would mention in their
> columns that harming or even mildly threatening Pandits
> > is not helpful to
> their cause whatever that may be.
>
> Thank you for your help
> > in this matter. If anyone needs further details, I
> will be glad to provide the
> > same.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vijay Sazawal
> www.KashmirForum.org
> > <http://www.KashmirForum.org>
> Washington, DC
>
>
> Kashmir Civil Society Calls
> > For Ceasefire
> Srinagar, Aug 29- Kashmir civil society has expressed concern
> > over reports
> in New Delhi based media about possible attacks¹ on minorities in
> > Kashmir
> and have urged upon the governments and the militant leadership to
> > implement
> a comprehensive ceasefire in the wake of present peaceful people¹s
> > movement
> to realise the right of self-determination.
> They have also urged the
> > community and religious leaders, political parties,
> militant leadership and
> > government to ensure the utmost respect and
> tolerance for the minorities.
> ²We
> > the conscientious people of Jammu and Kashmir believe and uphold that
> the
> > human life and its dignity are sacrosanct and in this regard we feel
> deeply
> > concerned and aggrieved over the news story carried by sections of
> Indian
> > media on 28th August 2008, in which it is reported that the
> > Indian
> Intelligence agency has expressed fears about the possible attacks
> > on
> minorities in Kashmir², a signed statement by several prominent citizens
> > and
> groups said today.
> ³Since 1989 there have been some massacres of minority
> > communities under
> mysterious circumstances, which created an atmosphere of
> > fear and mistrust
> amongst the communities. It is surprising that every time
> > these killings
> take place, the people¹s movement of Kashmir is at a critical
> > phase. The
> killings of Kashmiri Pandits in early 1990s or the massacre of 36
> > Sikhs at
> Chittisingpora in 2000 (during the visit of US President Bill
> > Clinton) or
> killings of innocent Hindus at Kulhand and other places creates an
> > aura of
> mystery around all these cold blooded killings. Investigations ordered
> > by
> government to probe these killings have always been inconclusive.
> > Bill
> Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States in his foreword to
> > Madeline
> Albright¹s book titled ³Mighty and the Almighty² has clearly accused
> > Hindu
> fanatics of massacring innocent Sikhs at Chittisingpora², the
> > statement
> said.
> The statement is signed besides others by  Grand Mufti, Mufti
> > Mohammad
> Bashiruddin, Mirwaiz Riyaz Hamdani of Shah Hamdan Mosque, Agha Syed
> > Hassan
> Mosavi of Anjumane Sharie Shiayan, Islamic Study Circle, Jammu
> > Kashmir
> Coalition of Civil Society, Chamber of Commerce and Industries
> > Kashmir,
> Kashmir Hotel and Restaurant Owner¹s Federation, Valley Citizens
> > Council,
> Chairman Kashmir Traders Federation and Noor Ahmed Bilal ­ President
> > Kashmir
> University Teachers Association. ³In the present scenario where
> > the
> non-violent mass uprising for the attainment of right to
> > self-determination
> of people of Jammu and Kashmir is resonating not just in
> > India but also in
> the International media and institutions, the reported
> > threat to minority
> communities whether Hindus or Sikhs is a serious concern
> > for the civil
> society of Kashmir², it said.
> ³In view of the above mentioned
> > concern, we urge upon the community leaders,
> religious leaders, political
> > parties, militant leadership and government to
> ensure the utmost respect and
> > tolerance for the minorities and refrain from
> any such act which makes the
> > lives of minorities uncomfortable. The
> minorities should not be treated as the
> > cannon fodder to carry out the
> agenda of vested interests in sabotaging the
> > people¹s movement of Kashmir.
> In the wake of present peaceful people¹s
> > movement to realise the right of
> self-determination, the only democratic
> > process for peace making, we urge
> upon the governments and the militant
> > leadership to implement a
> comprehensive ceasefire in Jammu and Kashmir. We the
> > people of Jammu and
> Kashmir while welcoming the United Jihad Council¹s
> > recently announced
> statement, in which they promised to halt their activities
> > within civilian
> areas, request them to broaden the scope of their statement
> > into a
> comprehensive ceasefire covering the entire Indian administered Jammu
> > and
> Kashmir. This would also mean their respect and primacy to the
> > people¹s
> movement.²
> The statement further urged the government of India to
> > halt the brutal use
> of force against the people and respect the people¹s right
> > to assembly and
> freedom of expression both in Kashmir and Jammu terming the
> > arrests and the
> killings unacceptable.
> ³We consider this as the testing time
> > for all of us as humans. We certainly
> have been victimised but the challenge
> > for the conscientious people is
> always to be humane besides being politically
> > correct², the statement said.
> ³In the present situation where the political
> > leadership has been arrested,
> communications blocked, curfew imposed, there is
> > every likelihood that
> situation may descend into chaos. It is therefore we
> > urge international
> community to take cognizance of the situation where in the
> > whole population
> of Kashmir is being pushed towards the wall. For
> > international institutions
> it is the time to intervene for preventing the
> > catastrophe and for the
> restoration of people¹s rights², the statement
> > added.
> ³We take this opportunity to assure our Hindu and Sikh brethren who
> > form the
> inseparable part of our cultural and political mosaic that they will
> > find
> their Muslim brethren besides always. Whatever be the circumstances we
> > have
> lived and suffered together and would continue to strive together for
> > our
> political emancipation².
> Others who have signed the statement include
> > prominent physician, Dr. Altaf
> Hussain, columnist Arjimand Hussain Talib,
> > academics Dr Hameeda Bano, Prof
> Shaikh Showkat Hussain, Dr Noor Ahmed Baba and
> > poet Zareef Ahmed Zareef.
>
>
> ------ End of Forwarded
> > Message
>
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