[Reader-list] Joint India-Pakistan Statement on Mumbai

[Kshmendra Kaul]

Dear Shumona
 
Thank you for your feedback.
 
I can only surmise that you did not read the full thread of exchanges or half-read and half-presumed what was being conveyed by me.
 
I did read the Biju Mathew piece but unfortunately did not find anything significantly worthwhile in it. 
 
I found interesting (and in keeping with the convoluted agenda that Biju seems to be promoting) the following words of Biju where he is refering to Nariman House:
 
"""""" The next time I won't wonder. I will know that it was one of the places where the drama that inaugurated India's renewed march towards fascism unfolded. """""
 
Quite a contemptible piece of shit this Biju Mathew seems to be.
 
Kshmendra
 
--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Shumona Goel <shumonagoel at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Shumona Goel <shumonagoel at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Joint India-Pakistan Statement on Mumbai
To: kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:05 PM



Dear Ms. Kaul,
 
Your emails are full of hatred and violence.  We have seen enough violence -- it is upsetting to read your emails, we are upset enough.  Where do you live?  Certainly not in Bombay.
 
Please read this:
 

 As the smoke lifts from Mumbai, skepticism must prevail over those conjectures which support the official state narrative. It is crucial to increase the pressure for transparency and accountability at this moment to ensure that India doesn't slide into the same state as post-9/11 USA.

By Biju Mathew

This piece originally appeared in Samar 31, published online December 1st, 2008.
The deaths continue even as I write this. The death toll stands at 195. And of the several hundred injured some may not survive. It is now official. The siege is over. The last of the gunmen inside the Taj Hotel has been shot dead. The Oberoi/Trident hotel was cleared earlier today and the Nariman House Jewish Center at the corner of Third Pasta Lane on the Colaba Causeway was stormed close to 24 hours ago. The other targets - the Leopold Cafe (a popular tourist hangout), the CST railway terminus (also called the Victoria Terminus), the Metro Cinema, the Cama Hospital, all seem to be targets the gunmen attacked as they zoned in on the hotels and Nariman House. In the end this has become a story of two sets of men with guns.
The human story of the innocents who died, the hotel staff who kept their cool and moved guests around the hotel through the service entryways and exits, those who helped each other escape, will not really make it to the headlines. The maintenance worker at the Oberoi who shielded guests and took the bullets in his stomach will remain unsung. The hospital orderlies who ran in and out with stretchers carrying the wounded - each time not knowing if they will make it back themselves to the ambulance, will not be noted. The several trainee chefs at the Taj who fell to bullets even as other kitchen workers escorted guests away from the firing and hid them inside a private clubroom will not be written up in the book of heroes. The young waiter at Leopold who was to leave to work in a Cape Town restaurant will soon be forgotten. The two young men who dragged an Australian tourist shot in the leg away from the Leopold entrance and carried her to a taxi will not
 even identify themselves so that she can thank them. These stories, in as much as they are told, will remain on the lips of only the workers, the guests and the tourists who helped each other. The officials will try and produce a clean story to tell the world. And we know the clean story is untrue.
The official story that has already begun to emerge is one that may have some facts embedded in it. But we must remember that between every two facts is a lot of conjecture. The conjectures that unite the few facts (16 gunmen, AK47s, grenades, passports of multiple nationalities, boats on which at least some of them arrived, a dead Anti-Terror Squad (ATS) chief, Hemant Karkare, who was heading the investigation against the Hindu Right wings' terror campaign, the gunmen trying to identify British and American citizens) makes the story. The story then is as much a product of the conjecture as it is of the facts. And there are certain stories that we are already oriented towards. The conjectures that create that story - the story we are already prepared for - is the one the State will dole out for our consumption. Already the conjectures that will serve the State, are out there in great profusion.
Several reporters have noted that the gunmen were clean-shaven, dressed in jeans and T-shirts. The silent conjecture is that they were expecting and were surprised by the fact that these men did not have beards and did not sport the Muslim prayer cap. Every newspaper worth its salt - the Times of India, the Jerusalem Post, the Independent from the UK, among scores of others - have already run commentary on the unsecured coastline of India. The conjectural subtext is that securing the coastline is possible and if India had done so, this attack would have been prevented.
There is also a quick labeling going on -- India's 9/11. The subtext is that India could and should act as the US did after 9/11 - decisively and with great aggression. There is also the subtext that the Indian State is soft on terror that adds to the US-tough-on-terror contrast. Sadanand Dhume, writing in the Wall Street Journal, has castigated the Indian government for withdrawing the Prevention of Terrorism Act (POTA) and for preventing states like Gujarat from passing their own version of the draconian worse-than-Patriot Act legislations. Neither Mr. Dhume, nor the several reporters who will now write stories about how the POTA repeal represents the Indian State's soft attitude towards terror will ever feel the need to explain how POTA could have prevented this attack.
The dead are on the floor. The vultures are moving in. The conjecture will try to unite the country into a series of unexamined positions. That POTA must be recalled. That States must be allowed to pass even more draconian laws. That Hindu terror is not a big issue and must be forgotten for now - especially now that we may not find an honest policeman or woman to head the ATS. That the defense budget must go up. That the coastline must be secured.
None of the well educated masters of the media will write that the 7000 odd kilometer coastline cannot be protected - that all it will translate to is billions in contracts for all and sundry including Israeli and American consultants. Nobody will write that a hundred POTAs will not prevent a terror attack like this one; that Guantanamo Bay has not yielded a single break through. Nobody will write that higher defense budgets have been more often correlated with insecure and militarized lives for ordinary citizens. Nobody will write that almost without exception all of US post 9/111 policies have been disasters. Bin Laden is still around, I am told and so is the Al Qaeda. The number of fundamentalist Christians, Muslims, Hindus and Jews have probably gone up over the last decade. So much for good policy. But the conjecture will go on.
The foreign hand and its internal partner will be floated without ever naming anything precise. But the country will read it just as it is meant to be read - Pakistan and the Indian Muslim. Everything will rest on the supposed confession of the one gunman who has been captured. A Pakistani from Faridkot, I am told. Why should we believe it? Didn't the same Indian State frame all the supposed accomplices in the Parliament attack case? Didn't the same Indian State claim that the assassins of Chattisinghpura were from across the border until that story fell apart? And more recently, didn't the same Indian State finally agree that all the accused in the Mecca Masjid bombings were actually innocent? And even if Mr. Assassin supposedly from Faridkot did say what he did say - why should we believe him? Why is it so difficult to believe that he has his lines ready and scripted? If he was willing to die for whatever cause he murdered for, then can he not lie? Oh
 the lie detector test - that completely discredited science that every militarized State trots out. And the media love the lie detector test because it is the best scientific garb you can give to conjecture.
I certainly don't know the truth. But I do know that there is more than enough reason for skepticism. The problem is that we need a new theory of the State. We need to re-understand the State.
There is such unanimity when it comes to analyzing the Pakistani State - that the ISI, and if not all of the ISI, at least a segment of it, is a rogue element Furthermore, that its bosses may not be sitting in Islamabad, but perhaps elsewhere in the country or even abroad. If we can accept that about the Pakistani State, why is it so difficult to accept it about the Indian State? We all know that Colin Powell was a kind of a patsy - a fall guy, who trotted out some lies on behalf of a segment of the neo-conservative movement firmly entrenched within the American State (which Obama will not touch). We also know that if the ISI has a rogue element in it, it was in good part created by the CIA. Then why do we think that the same guys couldn't render another State - such as the US - itself hollow from the inside.
The contemporary State is a different being. For every story of money-corruption you hear, there could just as well be one of political-corruption. Every vested interest who locates himself inside the State apparatus is not just a vested interest going after money but could just as well be securing the space for creating a certain politics. The RSS has a long history of trying to take over the bureaucracy, doesn't it? So do the neo-cons and so do the jamaatis. Then why do we believe in a theory of the State that is unified and with liberal goals?
The history of the liberal State and its relationship with capitalism of all types is a simple one. The longer that relationship persists the more corrupt and hollow the liberal State gets, leaving the space open for political ideologies to occupy its very insides. The logic for this is inherent in the very system. If profit is above all, then given the power the State has, it must be bought. Cheney is no different from Shivraj Patil, and Ambani is no different from Halliburton. They are both part of the story of hollowing the State out. And once the hollowing process begins, every ideological force can find its way in, as long as it has resources. The archetypal bourgeois liberal State is over. It never really existed, but what we have at the end of four decades of neo-liberalism bears no resemblance to the ideal formulation whatsoever. What we have instead is a series of hollowed out States with their nooks and crannies, their departments and offices
 populated with specific neo-conservative ideological interests. The US has its variant. India has its. And Israel its very own. It is incapable of delivering the truth, and not just the truth, it is only capable of producing lies.
If this story of skepticism makes sense then we have only one choice. To understand that it is crucial to increase the pressure for transparency at this moment, to be relentless in our demand for openness and detail, in our call to ensure that no investigation or inquiry that was in place be halted and that every one of these be subjected to public scrutiny. It is our responsibility to reject the discourse of secrecy based on security and demand specific standards of transparency. What we should demand is that every senior minister and every senior intelligence officer be examined and the records be made available to the public. What we must demand is that an officer of impeccable record be found to replace Hemant Karkare. What we must demand is that we get explanations of how a POTA clone would have stopped this crime. What we must ask is how POTA or the Patriot Act could have ever helped prevent terror? What we must do is support the Karkare family in
 their demand for a full investigation of his death in the company of the encounter specialist- Salaskar. What we must have is an open debate on every single case of terror over the last decade in India.
When I am in Bombay, I always stay at a friend's on Third Pasta Lane. Each afternoon I would walk out and see the Nariman House. I have wondered what the decrepit building was. I have always contrasted the drabness of the building with the colorful sign on the next building that announces Colaba Sweet House. The next time I won't wonder. I will know that it was one of the places where the drama that inaugurated India's renewed march towards fascism unfolded. Unless we act. Unless we act with speed and determination demanding transparency and accountability and a careful rewriting of the story of terror in India. Only a renewed movement can ensure that India doesn't slide into the same state as post 9/11 USA.
Biju Mathew is a member of the Campaign to Stop Funding Hate and the Coalition Against Genocide and is a co-founder of the New York Taxi Worker Alliance.
 


On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Naeem
 
I fully realise what I wrote and reaffirm the statement. If you find it unfair, it is perhaps because you are not familiar enough with the realities in Pakistan.
 
Let me repeat what I said (slightly edited):
 
" Hate Agendas run deep in the veins and psyche of the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis"
 
The 'danger' is not in what I said but in ignoring what I said. Ignoring that reality has led to allowing the dangers emanating from Pakistan to go unchallenged.
 
I do not hate Pakistan as presumed by you. Hate clouds well-informed and well-reasoned evaluations. 
 
The 'violent minority' that you refer to is not the totality or completeness of expression of the "Hate Agendas" I spoke about. The 'National Psyche of Pakistan' is the breeding ground for such partial (violent) expression.
 
Naeem, I suggest to you Sir that Pakistan was created "For Muslims" or "In the name of Islam" (take your pick), the institution that has held it together since 1947 is the Military Establishment and the 'ideology' that has held it together is not Islam but "Hate for India".
 
To that "National Hate for India" they have managed to add through the years "National Hate for USA". In fact "National Hate for Everyone Else" including (surprise, surprise) Arabs.
 
The "Hate Agendas", in keeping with Pakistan's federated structure extend themselves to the mutualities of "Hate Punjabis", "Hate Sindhis", "Hate Mohajirs", "Hate Balochis", "Hate Pathans", "Hate Kashmiris".
 
Let us not forget the packed pockets of "Hate" based on their own convoluted interpretation of Islam and not just directed towards Music,Dance, Films and Barbers and Girls' Schools but also "Hate Shias", "Hate Sunnis", "Hate Ahmedis, "Hate Barelvis", "Hate Deobandhis", "Hate Wahabis", "Hate Sufis", "Hate Dargahs".
 
We are talking about HATE in it's most intense and degraded forms of expression and not milder attitudes like dislikes or disagreements.
 
What you say is true (and it is not much different in India) that the "overwhelming majority of Pakistanis are struggling for roti-kapra-makaan". But we are not talking about the needs of the body here. Those needs are common for all humans.
 
There is a uniqueness in the food (or blood) that satisfies those minds and psyches  that are conditoned to "Hate" or in some cases the menus sought for "liberating the soul" through the 'destruction of others'. Study Pakistan to understand and realise that.
 
Kshmendra

--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Naeem Mohaiemen <naeem.mohaiemen at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Naeem Mohaiemen <naeem.mohaiemen at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Joint India-Pakistan Statement on Mumbai
To: kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
Cc: "taraprakash" <taraprakash at gmail.com>, reader-list at sarai.net
Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 10:55 PM

Kshmendra
It's deeply unfair and dangerous to say " 'hate agenda' runs
in the
veins and psyche of the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis."

I think overwhelming majority of Pakistanis are struggling for
roto-kapra-makaan and don't have time for fantasies of hate and death.
Unfortunately it only takes twenty to forty believers in a mad killing
vision to put a shadow of suspicion over populations of millions.

And by the way I'm Bangladeshi, so I should have far more reasons to
hate Pakistanis than you (how many Bengalis died in 1971? At least a
million more than have ever died in India-Pakistan conflicts/wars).
But I'm still not willing to let the violent minority pretend to speak
for the majority.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Dear Naeem
>
> Here is a thought for everyone
>
> A Terror-Strike of the scale and complexity that has been witnessed would
> require quite a bit of advance planning and in all probability it's
> execution set in motion well in advance of D-Day.
>
> Isnt' it rather idiotic of the signatories to the Statement to even
suggest
> a linkage between the Terror-Strike and it's taking place having been
timed
> to (to quote):
>
> """"" ..... the day the Home Secretaries of the
two countries concluded
> their talks in Islamabad and announced several concrete steps to move
> forward in the peace process, such as the opening of several land routes
for
> trade – Kargil, Wagah-Attari, Khokhropar etc –, relaxation in the visa
> regime,  a soft and liberal policy on the issue of release of prisoners
and
> joint efforts to fight terrorism? Again, is it just a coincidence that on
> this fateful day the Foreign Minister of Pakistan was in the Indian
capital
> holding very useful and productive talks with his Indian counterpart?
> """""""
>
> These idiots seem to suggest that the Terror-Strike would not have taken
> place if the ongoing talks between the two countries were not taking place
> amicably and moving towards "concrete steps to move forward in the
> peace process". The past history of Terror-Strikes emanating out of
Pakistan
> dismisses any such notion.
>
> Some people on both sides of the border seem to think that the realities
of
> attitudes in both countries lie in the much touted "People to people
> contact" and the accompanying "peace noises" in the
seminars and the
> (alcoholic or not) cocktail circuits. They are either foolish enough to
fool
> themselves into believing so or devious enough to try and fool others into
> beleiving so.
>
> Rather than putting forward a conspiracy theory about the conspiracy of
the
> Terror-Strike and make such pompous statements of little value, it would
> serve the Pakistanis well to look inwards and try and set things right in
> their country.
>
> It would serve the Indians well to realise how deep the "hate
agenda" runs
> in the veins and psyche of the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis.
>
> Kshmendra
>
> --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Naeem Mohaiemen <naeem.mohaiemen at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> From: Naeem Mohaiemen <naeem.mohaiemen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Joint India-Pakistan Statement on Mumbai
> To: "taraprakash" <taraprakash at gmail.com>
> Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 7:25 PM
>
> Accha bhai, everyone is hurt, bewildered, mourning, shocked, and
> finally angry. But can you not take even one minute pause to welcome a
> Joint India-Pakistan Statement of Mourning/Support for Mumbai as a
> positive development (even though it's miniscule)?
>
> Was there anything in the statement that denied Daud, that spewed
> venom? Since there was not, why does this Statement also have to be
> greeted by the same language?
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:49 PM, taraprakash <taraprakash at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> There may not be clear evidence of Daud but Pakistani media has
several
>> times covered the rallies addressed by those who were returned (by BJP
>> government) in exchange for the hijacked plane in Kandhar. They spew
venom
>> against all the Qafirs which include the moderate Muslims who are
friends
>> with the qafirs or are not friends with the misguided Jihadis.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rashneek kher"
> <rashneek at gmail.com>
>> To: "Naeem Mohaiemen" <naeem.mohaiemen at gmail.com>
>> Cc: <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 6:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Joint India-Pakistan Statement on Mumbai
>>
>>
>>> All this is fine.
>>> Let Pakistan only admit that they gave/are giving shelter and
refuge
> to
>>> Dawood(not handover him to India),have terrorist camps in POK and
> other
>>> parts of Pakistan.We have to first accept truth before the process
of
>>> reconciliation can be started.
>>> Pakistan Govt may not be involved in this Mumbai thing but can it
> refute
>>> what Sheikh Rashid writes in his book on Taliban,that Kashmiri
> terrorists
>>> had camps run by ISI in Pakistan and Afgahnaistan.
>>> Can they refute that they sent army regulars to be killed in
Kargil
> and
>>> did
>>> not even accept their dead bodies saying they are Kashmiris and
not
>>> Pakistanis.Tell me please,I may be ignorant but but have the
composite
>>> dialogue process or the opening of trade,routes or anything else
> achieved
>>> any thing close to peace.(Incidentally not even one Kashmiri
Pandit
> was
>>> allowed into PoK despite thousands of applications to visit the
sacred
>>> shrine of Sharda.)
>>> I wish there is lasting peace so that I can atleast go home if not
to
>>> Sharda
>>> but for all that to happen,Pakistan must act on terrorists on its
side
> and
>>> India should stop blaming Pakistan before they have credible
evidence.
>>>
>>> Rashneek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Naeem Mohaiemen
>>> <naeem.mohaiemen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This Joint Statement was released to the press
>>>> simultaneously in Pakistan and India on November 30
>>>> 2008.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mumbai bloodbath
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are deeply shocked and horrified at the bloody
>>>> mayhem in Mumbai, which has claimed more than a
>>>> hundred and ninty lives and caused grievous injuries
>>>> to several hundred people, besides sending a wave of
>>>> panic and terror across South Asia and beyond. We
>>>> convey our profound feelings of sorrow and sympathies
>>>> to the grieving families of the unfortunate victims of
>>>> this heinous crime and express our solidarity with
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As usual, all sorts of speculations are circulating
>>>> about the identity of the perpetrators of this act of
>>>> barbarism. The truth about who are directly involved
>>>> in this brutal incident and who could be the culprits
>>>> behind the scene is yet to come out and we do not wish
>>>> to indulge in any guesswork or blame game at this
>>>> point. However, one is intrigued at its timing. Can it
>>>> be termed a coincidence that it has happened on the
>>>> day the Home Secretaries of the two countries
>>>> concluded their talks in Islamabad and announced
>>>> several concrete steps to move forward in the peace
>>>> process, such as the opening of several land routes
>>>> for trade – Kargil, Wagah-Attari, Khokhropar etc –,
>>>> relaxation in the visa regime,  a soft and liberal
>>>> policy on the issue of release of prisoners and joint
>>>> efforts to fight terrorism? Again, is it just a
>>>> coincidence that on this fateful day the Foreign
>>>> Minister of Pakistan was in the Indian capital holding
>>>> very useful and productive talks with his Indian
>>>> counterpart?  One thing looks crystal clear. The
>>>> enemies of peace and friendship between the two
>>>> countries, whatever be the label under which they
>>>> operate, are un-nerved by these healthy developments
>>>> and are hell bent on torpedoing them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are of the considered opinion that the continued
>>>> absence of peace in South Asia - peace between and
>>>> within states - particularly in relation to India and
>>>> Pakistan , is one of the root causes of most of the
>>>> miseries the people of the region are made to endure.
>>>> It is the major reason why our abundantly
>>>> resource-rich subcontinent is wallowing in poverty,
>>>> unemployment, disease, and ignorance and why
>>>> militarism, religious and sectarian violence and
>>>> political, economic and social injustice are eating
>>>> into the very vitals of our societies, even after more
>>>> than six decades of independence from colonial rule.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At this moment of unmitigated tragedy, the first thing
>>>> we call upon the Governments of India and Pakistan to
>>>> do is to acknowledge the fact that the overwhelming
>>>> majority of the people of India and Pakistan ardently
>>>> desire peace and, therefore, the peace process must be
>>>> pursued with redoubled speed and determination on both
>>>> sides. The sooner the ruling establishments of India
>>>> and Pakistan acknowledge this fact and push ahead with
>>>> concrete steps towards lasting peace and harmony in
>>>> the subcontinent, the better it will be not only for
>>>> the people of our two countries but also for the whole
>>>> of South Asia and the world. While the immediate
>>>> responsibility for unmasking the culpritsof Mumbai
>>>> and taking them to task surely rests with the
>>>> Government of India, all of us in South Asia have an
>>>> obligation to join hands and go into the root causes
>>>> of why and how such forces of evil are motivated and
>>>> emboldened to resort to such acts of anti-people
>>>> terror.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is extremely important to remind the leaderships of
>>>> Pakistan and India that   issuing statements and
>>>> signing agreements and declarations will have meaning
>>>> only when they are translated into action and
>>>> implemented honestly, in letter and spirit and without
>>>> any further loss of time. It assumes added urgency in
>>>> the prevailing conditions in South Asia , with the
>>>> possibility that so many different forces prone to
>>>> religious, sectarian and other forms of intolerance
>>>> and violence may be looking for ways to arm themselves
>>>> with more and more sophisticated weapons of mass
>>>> murder and destruction. The bloodbath in Mumbai must
>>>> open the eyes of our governments, if it has not
>>>> already happened.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We urge upon the governments of India and Pakistan to
>>>> immediately take the following steps:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  1. Cessation of all hostile propaganda against each
>>>> other;
>>>>  2. Joint action to curb religious extremism of all
>>>> shades in both countries;
>>>>  3. Continue and intensify normalization of
>>>> relations and peaceful resolution of all conflicts
>>>> between the two countries;
>>>>  4. Facilitation of trade and cooperation between
>>>> the two countries and in all of South Asia . We
>>>> welcome the fact that the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad and
>>>> Poonch-Rawlakot borders have been opened for trade and
>>>> that the opening of the road between Kargil and Skardu
>>>> is in the pipeline.
>>>>  5. Immediate abolition of the current practice of
>>>> issuing city-specific and police reporting visa and
>>>> issue country-valid visa without restrictions at
>>>> arrival point, simultaneously initiating necessary
>>>> steps to introduce as early as possible a visa-free
>>>> travel regime, to encourage friendship between the
>>>> peoples of both countries;
>>>>  6. Declaration by India and Pakistan of No First
>>>> Use of atomic weapons;
>>>>  7. Concrete measures towards making South Asia
>>>> nuclear-free;
>>>>  8. Radical reduction in military spending and end
>>>> to militarisation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Signatories:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pakistan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  1. Mr. Iqbal Haider, Co-Chairman, Human Rights
>>>> Commission Pakistan and former federal Minister of
>>>> Pakistan
>>>>  2. Dr. Tipu Sultan, President, Pakistan Doctors for
>>>> Peace & Development, Karachi
>>>>  3. Dr. Tariq Sohail, Dean, Jinnah Medical & Dental
>>>> University , Karachi
>>>>  4. Dr. A. H.. Nayyar, President, Pakistan Peace
>>>> Coalition, Islamabad
>>>>  5. Justice (Retd) Rasheed A. Razvi, President,
>>>> Sindh High Court Bar Association
>>>>  6. Mr. B.M.Kutty, Secretary General , Pakistan
>>>> Peace Coalition, Karachi
>>>>  7. Mr. Karamat Ali, Director, PILER, Karachi ,
>>>> Founding member, PIPFPD
>>>>  8. Mr. Fareed Awan, General Secretary , Pakistan
>>>> Workers Confederation, Sindh
>>>>  9. Mr. Muhammad Ali Shah, Chairman , Pakistan
>>>> Fisherfolk Forum, Karachi
>>>>  10. Mr. Zulfiqar Halepoto, Secretary, Sindh
>>>> Democratic Front, Hyderabad
>>>>  11. Professor Dr. Sarfraz Khan, Area Studies Centre
>>>> ( Central Asia), Peshawar University
>>>>  12. Syed Khadim Ali Shah, Former Member National
>>>> Assembly, Mirpur Khas
>>>>  13. Mr. Muhammad Tahseen, Director, South Asia
>>>> Partnership (PAK), Lahore
>>>>  14. Mrs. Saleha Athar, Network for Women's Rights,
>>>> Karachi
>>>>  15. Ms. Sheema Kermani, Tehreek-e-Niswan, Karachi
>>>>  16. Ms. Saeeda Diep, President, Institute of Secular
>>>> Studies, Lahore
>>>>  17. Dr. Aly Ercelan, Pakistan Labour Trust, Karachi
>>>>  18. Mr. Suleiman G. Abro, Director, Sindh
>>>> Agricultural & Forestry Workers Organisation,
>>>> Hyderabad
>>>>  19. Mr. Sharafat Ali, PILER, Karachi
>>>>  20. Mr. Zulfiqar Ali Shah, PILER, Karachi
>>>>  21. Mr. Ayub Qureshi, Information Secretary ,
>>>> Pakistan Trade Union Federation
>>>>  22. Ms. Sheen Farrukh, Director, Interpress
>>>> Communication Pakistan , Karachi
>>>>  23. Mr. Zafar Malik, PIPFPD, Lahore
>>>>  24. Mr. Adam Malik, Action-Aid Pakistan , Karachi
>>>>  25. Mr. Qamarul Hasan, International Union of Food
>>>> Workers (IUF), Karachi
>>>>  26. Prof. Muhammad Nauman, NED University , Karachi
>>>>  27. Mr. Mirza Maqsood, General Secretary, Mazdoor
>>>> Mahaz-e-Amal
>>>>  28. Ms. Shaista Bukhari, Women Rights Association,
>>>> Multan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> India
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  1. Kuldip Nayar, journalist, former Indian High
>>>> Commissioner, UK., Delhi
>>>>  2. S P Shukla, retired Finance Secretary, former
>>>> Member, Planning Commission, Delhi
>>>>  3. PEACE MUMBAI network of 15 organisations, Mumbai
>>>>  4. Seema Mustafa, Journalist, Delhi
>>>>  5. Manisha Gupte, MASUM, Pune
>>>>  6.  Dr. Ramesh Awasthi, PUCL, Maharashtra
>>>>  7. Jatin Desai, journalist, Mumbai
>>>>  8. Prof. Ritu Dewan, University of Mumbai
>>>>  9. Prabir Purkayashta, DSF, Delhi
>>>>  10. Prof. Pushpa Bhave , Mumbai
>>>>  11. Paromita Vohra, filmmaker, Mumbai
>>>>  12. Achin Vanaik, CNDP, Delhi
>>>>  13. Meena Menon, Focus on the Global South, Mumbai
>>>>  14. Romar Correa Professor of Economics, University
>>>> of Mumbai
>>>>  15. Anjum Rajabally, film writer, Mumbai
>>>>  16. Anand Patwardhan, filmmaker, Mumbai
>>>>  17. Kamla Bhasin, SANGAT, Delhi
>>>>  18. Dr. Padmini Swaminathan, MIDS, Chennai
>>>>  19. Sumit Bali, CEO, Kotak Mahindra Prime Limited
>>>>  20. Dr Walter Fernandes, Director, North Eastern
>>>> Social Research Centre , Assam ,
>>>>  21. Rabia, Lahore Chitrkar
>>>>  22. Rakesh Sharma, filmmaker, Mumbai
>>>>  23. Prof. Kamal Mitra Chenoy, JNU, Delhi
>>>>  24. Prof. Anuradha Chenoy, JNU, Delhi
>>>>  25. P K Das, architect, Mumbai
>>>>  26. Neera Adarkar, architect, Mumbai
>>>>  27. Datta Iswalkar, Secretary, Textile Workers
>>>> Action Committee, Mumbai
>>>>  28. Madhusree Dutta, filmmaker, Majlis, Mumbai
>>>>  29. Amrita Chhachhi, Founding member, PIPFPD
>>>>  30. Mazher Hussain, COVA, Hyderabad
>>>>  31. Prof. Manoranjan Mohanty, Delhi
>>>>  32. Prof. M C Arunan, Mumbai
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