[Reader-list] Arrests won't affect us, jihad will continue: Lashkar

[taraprakash]

Looks like you are being a little too harsh on journalists. When they report 
on a particular incident, you can't expect them to write a whole book on 
that report; incorporating everything you want them to. The journalists were 
not covering Jihad, they were covering a specific event.
Best

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "anupam chakravartty" <c.anupam at gmail.com>
To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Arrests won't affect us,jihad will continue: 
Lashkar


> "He ran his fingers through his bushy beard as he sat in a dingy room for
> the interview, surrounded by boys' ages 15 to 20 that listened intently as
> he spoke."
>
>
> I am sorry to say but this looks like the work of a typical western
> journalist stuck in Islamabad and imagining things out of his/her head. I
> doubt the credibility of this report on the grounds that it was clearly
> inspired from a Frederick Forsythe novel.
>
> The statement, "we are still well organised and active" is so absurd. The
> reporter calls the person a "coodinator" and then asks if they are not
> organised or active. How bizzare. (And how can we forget the cliche --  
> safe
> houses)
>
> "They are concentrated on the tribal areas of Western provinces of
> Pakistan": Even american missles knew about this. Where is the news here?
>
> Also very conspiratorially the reporter states the problem of Jihad with a
> quote from the so-called coordinator, stating the same shit (sorry but 
> it's
> true) we have been getting on television and newspaper. If Jihad is 
> epitome
> of good muslim, then the reporter should have also stated in a responsible
> manner that the Holy Koran has a very different connotation of Jehad as
> opposed to what a lot of non-muslims think of.
>
> ANI is a prestigious news organisation. Care must be taken not to make 
> half
> hearted attempts to report about the real issues behind the pall of such
> calamity. My point here is if you have called it extremism, used phrases
> like jehad, holy war, fundamentalism, and other such things, then you must
> investigate why so many are becoming a part of this agenda. what makes
> a pashtoon from waziristan take up arms, who is capable of tilling the 
> arid
> soils single handedly?
>
>
>
> On 12/9/08, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Arrests won't affect us, jihad will continue: Lashkar
>> ANI
>> *New Delhi/ Lahore* A Lashkar-e-Toiba coordinator has said that the 
>> arrest
>> of at least 20 Jamaat-ud-Dawa activists, including the purported 
>> mastermind
>> of the Mumbai terror attacks, Zaki-u-Rehman Lakhvi, on the outskirts of
>> Muzaffarabad, will not stop the militant outfit from continuing with its
>> activities.
>>
>> "We are still well-organized and active," the 'Washington Times' quoted 
>> the
>> Lashkar coordinator, as saying during an interaction at a safe house near
>> Lahore.
>>
>> The Lashkar fighter in Lahore said the group has "huge strength" and is
>> concentrated in Pakistan's tribal areas on the border with Afghanistan.
>>
>> He ran his fingers through his bushy beard as he sat in a dingy room for
>> the
>> interview, surrounded by boys' ages 15 to 20 that listened intently as he
>> spoke.
>>
>> The man stood uncomfortably against the wall throughout the interview, 
>> his
>> eyes avoiding contact with the interviewer.
>>
>> "The Lashkar definitely has the capability and the capacity to conduct
>> attacks such as those which took place in Mumbai," said Rasool Baksh 
>> Raees,
>> a political science professor at the Lahore University of Management
>> Sciences.
>>
>> The Lashkar organizer denied that the group had to purchase recruits.
>> "Young
>> boys come to us usually because their friends have convinced them, 
>> because
>> they believe jihad is the epitome of being a good Muslim or because their
>> families are involved," he said.
>>
>> Sharmeen Obaid, a filmmaker who has covered jihadists in Pakistan
>> extensively, said that selling boys into jihad is a common practice.
>>
>> "It's happening more and more nowadays as people become more desperate 
>> for
>> money in Pakistan," she said.
>>
>> "After the [2007 Kashmir] earthquake when a large number of children 
>> became
>> orphans, I was told that a number of them were sold to organizations such
>> as
>> Lashkar," she added.
>>
>> She said the price for one recruit could range from 10,000 to 19,000
>> dollars. "Sufi shrines and mosques are usual meeting grounds for young
>> boys," the Lashkar organizer said.
>>
>> However, Yahya Muhammed, a spokesman for Lashkar-e-Taiba, has denied that
>> the organization has training camps.
>>
>> "The Jamaat-ud-Dawa was formed in 1986, while the Lashkar-e-Toiba was
>> formed
>> in 1986 and our main aim was to help our Kashmiri brothers," he said.
>>
>> *India can't question Lashkar commander, says Pakistan*
>>
>> Pakistan ruled out giving India access to Lashkar-e-Toiba commander 
>> Zakiur
>> Rehman Lakhwi, who is alleged to be behind the Mumbai terror strikes,
>> saying
>> questioning could be done only by Pakistani authorities to ascertain
>> whether
>> he had any link to the attacks.
>>
>> Pakistan Defence Minister Chaudhary Ahmed Mukhtar said India's 'concerns'
>> can be discussed through a joint investigation mechanism which Islamabad
>> has
>> proposed to be set up to probe the Mumbai attacks.
>>
>> "May be we can have a joint investigation mechanism and find out who 
>> these
>> culprits are," Mukhtar told a TV channel.
>>
>> He said Pakistani officials will question Lakhwi, who was arrested in the
>> crackdown against terrorists, to find out whether there is any linkage to
>> the Mumbai terror attacks.
>>
>> Lakhwi's name figured during questioning of Ajmal Kasab, the only 
>> terrorist
>> caught during the Mumbai attacks, by Indian investigators.
>>
>> "We do not have to rush into things. We have to move slowly to get hold 
>> of
>> the right kind of people who could be involved or are alleged to be
>> involved
>> (in Mumbai attacks). I really do not know who they are. We are trying to
>> find out. We will find out. There is no reason why we would not find 
>> out,"
>> he said.
>>
>> Mukhtar said the perpetrators of the Mumbai attack are 'scared' of
>> improvement in relations between India and Pakistan.
>>
>> "They are scared of these countries becoming trading partners and gaining
>> confidence of each other," he said.
>>
>> Mukhtar said the meeting of the Defence Committee of the Cabinet, chaired
>> by
>> Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, discussed the 'pros and cons' of
>> incidents 'happening around us' and ways to continue the war against 
>> terror
>> and to help Pakistan's neighbours fight the menace.
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