[Reader-list] Arrests won't affect us, jihad will continue: Lashkar

Thu Dec 11 02:42:55 IST 2008

 
That indeed is the point-what drives a Kashmiri pan Islamist to subject a hapless minscule Kashmiri Hindu community to ethnic cleansing;what is that motivates a Bermingham born (of Pakistani origin) Bilal to come as far as Kashmir & blow himself up in Srinagar on the x-mas eve of 2000; why should Bangluru based Kafil go all the way to commit suicide bombing at the galssgow airport ?Even recently we have seen Muslims boys from down south Kerala fighting with the Indian security forces in Kashmir.What inspired the Pakistani mercenary Mast Gul to singe in full public view Chare Shariff -the symbol of Kashmiriyat...???... There is something drastically wrong & time to come out of the denial mode.........
Regardas all
LA
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> From: taraprakash at gmail.com> To: c.anupam at gmail.com; reader-list at sarai.net> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:13:06 -0500> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Arrests won't affect us, jihad will continue: Lashkar> > Looks like you are being a little too harsh on journalists. When they report > on a particular incident, you can't expect them to write a whole book on > that report; incorporating everything you want them to. The journalists were > not covering Jihad, they were covering a specific event.> Best> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anupam chakravartty" <c.anupam at gmail.com>> To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:16 AM> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Arrests won't affect us,jihad will continue: > Lashkar> > > > "He ran his fingers through his bushy beard as he sat in a dingy room for> > the interview, surrounded by boys' ages 15 to 20 that listened intently as> > he spoke."> >> >> > I am sorry to say but this looks like the work of a typical western> > journalist stuck in Islamabad and imagining things out of his/her head. I> > doubt the credibility of this report on the grounds that it was clearly> > inspired from a Frederick Forsythe novel.> >> > The statement, "we are still well organised and active" is so absurd. The> > reporter calls the person a "coodinator" and then asks if they are not> > organised or active. How bizzare. (And how can we forget the cliche -- > > safe> > houses)> >> > "They are concentrated on the tribal areas of Western provinces of> > Pakistan": Even american missles knew about this. Where is the news here?> >> > Also very conspiratorially the reporter states the problem of Jihad with a> > quote from the so-called coordinator, stating the same shit (sorry but > > it's> > true) we have been getting on television and newspaper. If Jihad is > > epitome> > of good muslim, then the reporter should have also stated in a responsible> > manner that the Holy Koran has a very different connotation of Jehad as> > opposed to what a lot of non-muslims think of.> >> > ANI is a prestigious news organisation. Care must be taken not to make > > half> > hearted attempts to report about the real issues behind the pall of such> > calamity. My point here is if you have called it extremism, used phrases> > like jehad, holy war, fundamentalism, and other such things, then you must> > investigate why so many are becoming a part of this agenda. what makes> > a pashtoon from waziristan take up arms, who is capable of tilling the > > arid> > soils single handedly?> >> >> >> > On 12/9/08, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:> >>> >> Arrests won't affect us, jihad will continue: Lashkar> >> ANI> >> *New Delhi/ Lahore* A Lashkar-e-Toiba coordinator has said that the > >> arrest> >> of at least 20 Jamaat-ud-Dawa activists, including the purported > >> mastermind> >> of the Mumbai terror attacks, Zaki-u-Rehman Lakhvi, on the outskirts of> >> Muzaffarabad, will not stop the militant outfit from continuing with its> >> activities.> >>> >> "We are still well-organized and active," the 'Washington Times' quoted > >> the> >> Lashkar coordinator, as saying during an interaction at a safe house near> >> Lahore.> >>> >> The Lashkar fighter in Lahore said the group has "huge strength" and is> >> concentrated in Pakistan's tribal areas on the border with Afghanistan.> >>> >> He ran his fingers through his bushy beard as he sat in a dingy room for> >> the> >> interview, surrounded by boys' ages 15 to 20 that listened intently as he> >> spoke.> >>> >> The man stood uncomfortably against the wall throughout the interview, > >> his> >> eyes avoiding contact with the interviewer.> >>> >> "The Lashkar definitely has the capability and the capacity to conduct> >> attacks such as those which took place in Mumbai," said Rasool Baksh > >> Raees,> >> a political science professor at the Lahore University of Management> >> Sciences.> >>> >> The Lashkar organizer denied that the group had to purchase recruits.> >> "Young> >> boys come to us usually because their friends have convinced them, > >> because> >> they believe jihad is the epitome of being a good Muslim or because their> >> families are involved," he said.> >>> >> Sharmeen Obaid, a filmmaker who has covered jihadists in Pakistan> >> extensively, said that selling boys into jihad is a common practice.> >>> >> "It's happening more and more nowadays as people become more desperate > >> for> >> money in Pakistan," she said.> >>> >> "After the [2007 Kashmir] earthquake when a large number of children > >> became> >> orphans, I was told that a number of them were sold to organizations such> >> as> >> Lashkar," she added.> >>> >> She said the price for one recruit could range from 10,000 to 19,000> >> dollars. "Sufi shrines and mosques are usual meeting grounds for young> >> boys," the Lashkar organizer said.> >>> >> However, Yahya Muhammed, a spokesman for Lashkar-e-Taiba, has denied that> >> the organization has training camps.> >>> >> "The Jamaat-ud-Dawa was formed in 1986, while the Lashkar-e-Toiba was> >> formed> >> in 1986 and our main aim was to help our Kashmiri brothers," he said.> >>> >> *India can't question Lashkar commander, says Pakistan*> >>> >> Pakistan ruled out giving India access to Lashkar-e-Toiba commander > >> Zakiur> >> Rehman Lakhwi, who is alleged to be behind the Mumbai terror strikes,> >> saying> >> questioning could be done only by Pakistani authorities to ascertain> >> whether> >> he had any link to the attacks.> >>> >> Pakistan Defence Minister Chaudhary Ahmed Mukhtar said India's 'concerns'> >> can be discussed through a joint investigation mechanism which Islamabad> >> has> >> proposed to be set up to probe the Mumbai attacks.> >>> >> "May be we can have a joint investigation mechanism and find out who > >> these> >> culprits are," Mukhtar told a TV channel.> >>> >> He said Pakistani officials will question Lakhwi, who was arrested in the> >> crackdown against terrorists, to find out whether there is any linkage to> >> the Mumbai terror attacks.> >>> >> Lakhwi's name figured during questioning of Ajmal Kasab, the only > >> terrorist> >> caught during the Mumbai attacks, by Indian investigators.> >>> >> "We do not have to rush into things. We have to move slowly to get hold > >> of> >> the right kind of people who could be involved or are alleged to be> >> involved> >> (in Mumbai attacks). I really do not know who they are. We are trying to> >> find out. We will find out. There is no reason why we would not find > >> out,"> >> he said.> >>> >> Mukhtar said the perpetrators of the Mumbai attack are 'scared' of> >> improvement in relations between India and Pakistan.> >>> >> "They are scared of these countries becoming trading partners and gaining> >> confidence of each other," he said.> >>> >> Mukhtar said the meeting of the Defence Committee of the Cabinet, chaired> >> by> >> Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, discussed the 'pros and cons' of> >> incidents 'happening around us' and ways to continue the war against > >> terror> >> and to help Pakistan's neighbours fight the menace.> >> _________________________________________> >> reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city.> >> Critiques & Collaborations> >> To subscribe: send an email to reader-list-request at sarai.net with> >> subscribe in the subject header.> >> To unsubscribe: https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/reader-list> >> List archive: &lt;https://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/>> > _________________________________________> > reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city.> > Critiques & Collaborations> > To subscribe: send an email to reader-list-request at sarai.net with > > subscribe in the subject header.> > To unsubscribe: https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/reader-list> > List archive: &lt;https://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/> > > _________________________________________> reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city.> Critiques & Collaborations> To subscribe: send an email to reader-list-request at sarai.net with subscribe in the subject header.> To unsubscribe: https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/reader-list > List archive: &lt;https://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/>
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