[Reader-list] Free expression for a Muslim

Rohan DSouza virtuallyme at gmail.com
Fri Feb 15 09:45:58 IST 2008


Raj Thackeray says Maharashtra for Maharashtrians, Sangh Parivar says
India for Hindus. Not much difference in sentiment, is there?

Rohan


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>  Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:36:43 +0530
>  From: radhikarajen at vsnl.net
>  Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Free expression for a        Muslim
>         Traitor-AlienorHindubetrayers?
>  To: Lawrence Liang <lawrence at altlawforum.org>,  ARNAB CHATTERJEE
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>  Cc: reader-list at sarai.net, shuddha at sarai.net,   Jeebesh Bagchi
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>  Hi all,
>
>   freedom of speech and then show of lati along with the free speech has
>  resulted in enough violence and show of intolerence in maharashtra,one
>  non-entity who with his navnirman sena went on to destroy the property that
>  belonged to all in his state invoking the marati manoos for the violence,
>  another talking of retaliation holding a lati in his hand, did his best to
>  further divide the citizens in to communes on language and faith. All along
>  the Marata great fuedal lord, minister for agriculture and king of sports
>  body with billions to control all, had secret parleys to divide the commune
>  votes of maratis, and the sufferer in all this game is reflected with death
>  of a marati manoos by a stone thrown at him !
>   So, is freedom of speech available to invoke violence to Abu and Raj who
>  were media hyped into celebrities overnight, that centre had to send para
>  military forces for the drama of arrest and bailing out. ? Is this
>  democratic working of the system where citizens are scared of goons and the
>  system actively helps to breed such goons in the politics of the nation and
>  governance. ?Apologetic words of a CM of a state, that police arrested the
>  culprits and CM has no role in the arrests is atbest a reflection of an
>  impotent ruler who has no courage to own acts of prosecution of evil
>  criminals. ?
>   Regards,
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Lawrence Liang" <lawrence at altlawforum.org>
>  To: "ARNAB CHATTERJEE" <apnawritings at yahoo.co.in>
>  Cc: <reader-list at sarai.net>; <shuddha at sarai.net>; "Jeebesh Bagchi"
>  <jeebesh at sarai.net>
>  Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:53 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Free expression for a Muslim Traitor-Alien
>  orHindubetrayers?
>
>
>  > Hi Arnab and Jeebesh
>  >
>  > The doctors have given me permission to take a quick break from this
>  > very painful vasectomy to clarify and add a legal point; There is a
>  > clear distinction in the constitution between Art. 19 (freedom of
>  > speech) and Art. 21(right to life), and while Art 21 is available to  to
>  > all persons, Art. 19 is only available to citizens, which means  that
>  > non citizens do not have the same claim that citizens can in the case
>  > of  free speech, and hence do not have access to same remedies either.
>  >
>  > In any case i read jeebesh's posts as not making a legal argument but
>  > urging us to move beyond the rather narrow conceptual  frame of liberal
>  > legality, and explore the possibilities of a wider set of cultural
>  > resources through which we can think of hospitality, and again not as
>  > candy floss virtue ethic but as   forms of life
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Lawrence
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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