[Reader-list] Free expression for a Muslim

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Fri Feb 15 11:24:04 IST 2008


Using Indian exported Buddism differently the China and Muslim Pakistan has been trying to possess Indian terrotories illegally,  being an Indian resident citizen and Hindu whats wrong If Raj Thackeray  says Maharashtra is for Maharashtrians? Pl Leave the thought to fellow citizens including Maharashrians.  But by asking like this, do you mean that Raj Thakeray is not a HINDU?
   
  Rohan DSouza <virtuallyme at gmail.com> wrote:
  Raj Thackeray says Maharashtra for Maharashtrians, Sangh Parivar says
India for Hindus. Not much difference in sentiment, is there?

Rohan


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> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:36:43 +0530
> From: radhikarajen at vsnl.net
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Free expression for a Muslim
> Traitor-AlienorHindubetrayers?
> To: Lawrence Liang , ARNAB CHATTERJEE
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> Cc: reader-list at sarai.net, shuddha at sarai.net, Jeebesh Bagchi
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> Hi all,
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> freedom of speech and then show of lati along with the free speech has
> resulted in enough violence and show of intolerence in maharashtra,one
> non-entity who with his navnirman sena went on to destroy the property that
> belonged to all in his state invoking the marati manoos for the violence,
> another talking of retaliation holding a lati in his hand, did his best to
> further divide the citizens in to communes on language and faith. All along
> the Marata great fuedal lord, minister for agriculture and king of sports
> body with billions to control all, had secret parleys to divide the commune
> votes of maratis, and the sufferer in all this game is reflected with death
> of a marati manoos by a stone thrown at him !
> So, is freedom of speech available to invoke violence to Abu and Raj who
> were media hyped into celebrities overnight, that centre had to send para
> military forces for the drama of arrest and bailing out. ? Is this
> democratic working of the system where citizens are scared of goons and the
> system actively helps to breed such goons in the politics of the nation and
> governance. ?Apologetic words of a CM of a state, that police arrested the
> culprits and CM has no role in the arrests is atbest a reflection of an
> impotent ruler who has no courage to own acts of prosecution of evil
> criminals. ?
> Regards,
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence Liang" 
> To: "ARNAB CHATTERJEE" 
> Cc: ; ; "Jeebesh Bagchi"
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> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Free expression for a Muslim Traitor-Alien
> orHindubetrayers?
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> > Hi Arnab and Jeebesh
> >
> > The doctors have given me permission to take a quick break from this
> > very painful vasectomy to clarify and add a legal point; There is a
> > clear distinction in the constitution between Art. 19 (freedom of
> > speech) and Art. 21(right to life), and while Art 21 is available to to
> > all persons, Art. 19 is only available to citizens, which means that
> > non citizens do not have the same claim that citizens can in the case
> > of free speech, and hence do not have access to same remedies either.
> >
> > In any case i read jeebesh's posts as not making a legal argument but
> > urging us to move beyond the rather narrow conceptual frame of liberal
> > legality, and explore the possibilities of a wider set of cultural
> > resources through which we can think of hospitality, and again not as
> > candy floss virtue ethic but as forms of life
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lawrence
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