[Reader-list] Manipuri women coming to stir up Govt. at Delhi - Campaign against Militarization, Impunity and AFSPA 1958

[chanchal malviya]

Dear Kiran,

I do not think I am away from the topic of generalization between Religion and Anti-Nationalism....
Please consider my following points:

1. What is nationalism? Is it not about the nation - who worships the nation as Mother?
2. What is Religion? Is it not about the texts that demands to be in boundaries? Are Hindus actually a religious group? Why did Supreme court declare that Hinduism is a way of life and not a religion? 

What I want to bring into picture is, It is Hinduism alone that teaches Nationalism. Islam and Christianism are invaded religions. Hindus have accepted them and Secularism was defined to allow them to live with love. But they never came out of their religious boundaries - they yet demands Hindus to convert.

Muslims have discarded Vande Matram (Isn't it Anti-National). Muslims do not protest against Terrorism (Isn't it Anti-National). 

Same people constitutes the nation, who constitutes the Religion. For a Hindu, nation is everything - the biggest of all 'Mata'. Have a Muslim ever said that India is bigger to them then Islam? 

This where these two entities are correlated. The generalization lies only with Hindus today - this is a ground fact. What is shown superfitially, I do not want to comment on that further.


----- Original Message ----
From: Kiran Jonnalagadda <jace at pobox.com>
To: chanchal malviya <chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com>
Cc: reader-list list <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:58:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Manipuri women coming to stir up Govt. at Delhi - Campaign against Militarization, Impunity and AFSPA 1958

Dear Chanchal,

I appreciate your concerns, but this is not a discussion I'm  
interested in having. My only interest is in some clarity on Pawan's  
generalisation between religion and anti-nationalism.

Thank you.


-- 
Kiran Jonnalagadda
http://jace.seacrow.com/



On 18-Jan-08, at 11:33 AM, chanchal malviya wrote:

> 1. Who are providing Arms to Naxals?
> 2. How many nations are they terrorizing?
> 3. What religious motivation guides them to do so?
> 4. Which religious book of Hindu has asked them to do so?
>
> 1. Which law of Islam or any Islamic country have punished any of  
> these terrorists?
> 2. How many Mullahs have declared Fatwa agains even one terrorist?
> 3. How many Muslim road show have taken place again hundreds of  
> Terrorist attacks?
>
> Even the Criminalized section of Hindus are not fighting in the name   
> of religion... They do so because they are criminals and there are  
> clear law to deal with them (not religion)...
>
> There is a difference... better to be understood...
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kiran Jonnalagadda <jace at pobox.com>
> To: Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> Cc: reader-list list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:58:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Manipuri women coming to stir up Govt. at   
> Delhi - Campaign against Militarization, Impunity and AFSPA 1958
>
> On 18-Jan-08, at 10:33 AM, Pawan Durani wrote:
>
> > I do not diagree that representatives of states sometimes do misuse
> > their
> > authority . However the difference is that when a hindu is  
> violated he
> > doesnt turn anti national.
>
> Pawan,
>
> Are you claiming that the supporters of the naxalite movement, LTTE
> and others who oppose the national apparatus are not Hindu?
>
> If you're not, could you be more specific?
>
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