[Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?

[Pawan Durani]

Dear Fazli ,

NamaskAr

You are right . There is no point in narrating the stories to me . For I
have been a victim of Islamic terrorism in Kashmir .

If Kashmiri muslims are suffering today, which I do not disagree , it is
because of their own stand. They welcomed back the Jihadis from Pakistan
with sweets . They glorified *terrorism*. They did not utter a word when
Kashmiri Hindus were killed.

Even after so many years they still did not mind giving a rousing rception
to terrorists like Bitta Karate who has admitted to selective killings of 40
Kashmiri pandits.

Fazli , do you still think there is a point telling me stories.

God Bless

Regards

Pawan

PS : I have some good friends still in Kashmir , and the reason is that they
admit to what went wrong and not one who try to distort history.


On 1/19/08, gowhar fazli <gowharfazili at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> What has made you believe no one got punished in
> Kashmir.  Kashmir is a virtual hell where the whole
> Muslim population is under imprisonment with torture
> and humiliation 24X7 for the last seventeen years.
> You have to be grossly insensitive not to notice
> this... despite the fact that migration of Pandits
> whether under state patronage or compulsion would not
> have been a cake-walk.  In Kashmir, it is not just the
> miscreants who may have harmed Pandits or damaged
> public property or the intolerant 'fundamentalists'
> who are being punished... (though you will find many
> more times the Pandit population of such people
> rotting in jails, killed without impunity, tortured or
> 'disappeared'... )  Punishment in Kashmir is for
> everybody without exception (even the stooges of the
> state are not safe from itself).
>
> The biggest worry for you and me are the generations
> that are being brought up under these inhuman
> conditions while your kids grow up in decent
> neighbourhoods (I presume).  With military to kick
> them around everyday, you cannot expect them to grow
> to love the state or YOU for not caring to change
> this.  They will especially hate you for trying to
> privilege injustice faced by the group you cling on to
> so dearly, while justifying the injustice faced by
> those whom you would rather wish dead.
>
> In the name of militancy and fundamentalism the whole
> Kashmiri Muslim population has been successfully
> criminalized.  Kashmiri Muslims are not faced with the
> choice of being 'patriotic' or 'unpatriotic'.  This
> choice has already been made for them by you and the
> state.
>
> I seriously wonder if there is any point in telling
> you all this.
>
>
> --- Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > At least 6 years after the Gujarat riot , which
> > started after some
> > fundamentalists burnt alive scores of Hindu Pilgrims
> > returning from Ayodhya
> > , few people were convicted.
> >
> > Compare it with the case of Kashmiri Pandits , even
> > after 18 years , not
> > even a single person has been convicted in Kashmir
> > for killing of more than
> > 3000 Kashmiri pandits . Not to talk of rape and
> > arson against this
> > community.
> >
> > For that reason that the state is ruled by
> > camouflage Islamic fundamentalist
> > and Islamic groups are in majority.
> >
> > When will the justice be served to Kashmiri Pandits
> > ? At least in Modis
> > gujarat ....it has been served.....
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/18/08, S.Fatima <sadiafwahidi at yahoo.co.in>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Friends
> > > Look at these two news items for what's being
> > > discussed on this list right now:
> > >
> > > 12 convicted in Bilkis Bano rape case
> > > 18 Jan 2008, 1710 hrs IST,PTI
> > > MUMBAI: Twelve persons, including a police
> > official,
> > > were convicted by a special court here on Friday
> > in
> > > the Bilkis Bano gang-rape case related to the
> > > post-Godhra communal violence in Gujarat.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/12_convicted_in_Bilkis_Bano_rape_case/articleshow/2711484.cms
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > 'Modi gave us a free run to do whatever we wanted'
> > > 26 Oct 2007, 0101 hrs IST,TNN
> > >
> > > NEW DELHI: "We made a complete rocket launcher
> > here...
> > > We distributed so many weapons, people were
> > shocked.
> > > We'd make them here and then test them."
> > >
> > > Here are some more such shocking 'testimonies':
> > >
> > > Suresh Richard, an accused in the Naroda Patiya
> > > episode in which over 200 Muslims were officially
> > > estimated to have been killed, said on camera that
> > > Modi visited the locality the same evening,
> > February
> > > 28, and thanked the perpetrators of the violence
> > > saying, "Aap dhanya ho... (You are blessed)."
> > >
> > > Rajendra Vyas, a senior VHP functionary who was on
> > the
> > > Sabarmati Express that was set on fire in Godhra,
> > > said, "The Muslims had played a one-day match with
> > > us... They have given us a target of 60... We have
> > to
> > > win this match at any cost, so don't stop till you
> > > have made 600 runs... Modi gave us a free run to
> > do
> > > whatever we wanted... The police were with us..."
> > >
> > > Babu Bajrangi, a Bajrang Dal activist who has been
> > in
> > > the news for blocking the carnage movie Parzania
> > from
> > > being screened in the state, revealed that police
> > > commissioner P C Pande, who has recently been
> > moved
> > > out of the DGP's post by the Election Commission,
> > had
> > > ordered that the 700-800 dead bodies at Naroda
> > Patiya
> > > be clandestinely picked up and dumped all over
> > > Ahmedabad.
> > >
> > > "The commissioner came that night and said that if
> > > there were so many dead at one place, it would
> > create
> > > trouble for him... After killing them, I felt like
> > > Maharana Pratap... We killed at will, turned the
> > place
> > > into Haldighati."
> > >
> > > Key witness in the Godhra case, Ranjitsingh Patel,
> > a
> > > petrol pump employee who deposed that he had sold
> > 140
> > > litres of petrol to the accused on the eve of the
> > > Sabarmati episode, admits that he and his
> > colleague
> > > were both paid Rs 50,000 each by Noel Parmar, the
> > > chief investigating officer.
> > >
> > > "Noel saheb gave me fifty thousand, showed me a
> > > photograph and said I had to identify him." Two
> > BJP
> > > members, Murli Mulchandani and Kakul Pathak, who
> > > claimed to be eyewitnesses to the Godhra attack
> > and
> > > identified many of the accused, admit they were
> > not
> > > even at the station that fateful day.
> > >
> > > Mulchandani said: "I wasn't at the station, I was
> > > sleeping at home. But the police put me among the
> > > witnesses." Pathak said, "The police gave all the
> > > names. None of the eyewitnesses wrote their
> > > statements. The police did."
> > >
> > > Arvind Pandya, the government's counsel in the
> > ongoing
> > > proceedings before the Nanavati-Shah Commission
> > > probing the carnage, said that the accused had
> > nothing
> > > to fear from either of the retired judges.
> > "Nanavati
> > > is a clever man... He wants money... Of the two
> > > judges, Shah is intelligent... woh anpe wala hai
> > (he
> > > is our man)... he is sympathetic to us... Nanavati
> > is
> > > after money."
> > >
> > > Bharat Bhatt, a public prosecutor, said that he
> > was
> > > shielding the Hindu accused even as he was
> > supposed to
> > > be arguing against them.
> > >
> > > "I tell all the Hindus not to smile when they see
> > > me... not to say a word to me. I tell them that I
> > will
> > > scold them if they do so... Sometimes I deceive
> > > them... I scare them but later show my affections
> > > too..."
> > >
> > > In the Gulbarg Society massacre, accused Madan
> > Chawal
> > > gives a first-hand account of how former Congress
> > MP
> > > Ehsan Jafri was hacked limb by limb and burned. He
> > > says Jafri offered them money in return for his
> > life.
> > > "We said yes. When he came out, we took the money
> > and
> > > pounced on him."
> > >
> > >
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> Unfortunately, the balance of nature decrees that a super-abundance of
> dreams is paid for by a growing potential for nightmares.
>
> Love is an act of endless forgiveness, a tender look which becomes a
> habit.
>
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