[Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?

Pawan Durani pawan.durani at gmail.com
Sun Jan 20 22:43:38 IST 2008


Dear Mr Asit ,

I just wanted to clarify that the word Kashmiriat was used very cleaverly by
Kashmiri Muslim leaders to hide the atrocities on Kashmiri Hindus.

It is a historical fact that Kashmir has been intolerant towards hindus
since last almost 1000 years and there have been more than 8 major exodus of
Kashmiri pandits .

Regards

Pawan Durani


On 1/20/08, Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> lets not communalise the kashmir scene with talking about pandits and
> muslims what is imporatnt is kasmiriyat ant the national liberation of
> kashmir it is a occcupied territory of both pakistan and india we make a
> big
> scene about pandits what about thousands of kasmiri youth killed by the
> indian army the tortures the rapes and the natinal indignination of kasmir
> its not a question of hindus or muslims but the colonisation of kasmir by
> india and pakistan
>
> asit
>
>
> On 1/20/08, radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> >
> > Same is the case when Theesta and the likes with "secular" media claim
> > "thousands of " muslims bucthered in Gujarath, but who bothers about
> truth
> > when one can get saudi riyals to defend the traitors of the nation with
> > highly paid "criminal" lawyers. ?
> > In riot both hindus and muslims loose their beloved, many lives are
> lost,
> > but this has origin in creating the Pakistan and then not encouraging
> the
> > indian muslims to go the land and nation they created for faith, after
> > promising to live in India like brothers to their society. ?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Wali Arifi <waliarifi3 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:58 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
> > To: reader-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Last two decades of turbulence in Kashmir have taught us many
> > > lessons. One
> > > being that there is always a tendency to exaggerate figures when
> > > it comes to
> > > human loss.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But accuracy is always useful, and doesn't reduce the loss. In
> > > fact accuracy
> > > adds to the dignity of those who have suffered the loss. In essence
> > > multiplying figures is reflective of a tendency to take refuge in
> > > propagandaand cloth the truth with it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr Durrani in his post has said: "….for killing of more than 3000
> > > Kashmiripandits. Not to talk of rape and arson against this
> > > community."
> > >
> > >
> > > I wonder where this figure of "3000" has come from? What is Mr Durrani
> > > trying to prove or achieve by multiplying the number of killings?
> > > Is he
> > > helping the community by exaggerating the figure?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > According to the Jammu and Kashmir government, 208 Kashmiri
> > > pandits were
> > > killed in the state from 1990 to 2006.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It has to be understood that multiplying figures is dangerously
> > > counterproductive for those who call themselves as the champions and
> > > custodians of the interest of Kashmiri Pandits. Forget about the
> > > use of
> > > words like genocide, holocaust, pogrom, ethnic cleansing and so on...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kashmir's history will be written by those who have dreamed of a 'just
> > > Kashmir'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Let it be asked to Mr Durrani... Is he writing history, or trying
> > > to create
> > > it to suite a program that translates 'democracy' into what it has
> > > actuallybeen in all practice... **Majoritarianism.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Wali
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