[Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?

[Pawan Durani]

Dear Krishna ,

If the mojority is peace loving , the militants can still rule them .
Wasn't "Bharat" a hindu country even when few hundred Afghan muslims came
and ruled them ?  Did that make Bharat a non muslim during that time.

Please check the history of Kashmir , though it is unfortunate that you have
missed that so far.

God Bless all .....people who know and even those who dont

Pawan




On 1/20/08, Krishna Chaithanya <tulunadu at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "It is a historical fact that Kashmir has been intolerant towards hindus
>  since last almost 1000 years and there have been more than 8 major exodus
> of
> Kashmiri pandits ".
>
> Does that mean that Kashmir was never a Hindu Country...!? What are you
> saying Pawan?
>
> KC
>
> > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:43:38 +0530
> > From: pawan.durani at gmail.com
> > To: asitredsalute at gmail.com
> > CC: reader-list at sarai.net
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
> >
> > Dear Mr Asit ,
> >
> > I just wanted to clarify that the word Kashmiriat was used very
> cleaverly by
> > Kashmiri Muslim leaders to hide the atrocities on Kashmiri Hindus.
> >
> > It is a historical fact that Kashmir has been intolerant towards hindus
> > since last almost 1000 years and there have been more than 8 major
> exodus of
> > Kashmiri pandits .
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Pawan Durani
> >
> >
> > On 1/20/08, Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > lets not communalise the kashmir scene with talking about pandits and
> > > muslims what is imporatnt is kasmiriyat ant the national liberation of
> > > kashmir it is a occcupied territory of both pakistan and india we make
> a
> > > big
> > > scene about pandits what about thousands of kasmiri youth killed by
> the
> > > indian army the tortures the rapes and the natinal indignination of
> kasmir
> > > its not a question of hindus or muslims but the colonisation of kasmir
> by
> > > india and pakistan
> > >
> > > asit
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/20/08, radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Same is the case when Theesta and the likes with "secular" media
> claim
> > > > "thousands of " muslims bucthered in Gujarath, but who bothers about
> > > truth
> > > > when one can get saudi riyals to defend the traitors of the nation
> with
> > > > highly paid "criminal" lawyers. ?
> > > > In riot both hindus and muslims loose their beloved, many lives are
> > > lost,
> > > > but this has origin in creating the Pakistan and then not
> encouraging
> > > the
> > > > indian muslims to go the land and nation they created for faith,
> after
> > > > promising to live in India like brothers to their society. ?
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Wali Arifi <waliarifi3 at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:58 pm
> > > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
> > > > To: reader-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > > >
> > > > > Dear all,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Last two decades of turbulence in Kashmir have taught us many
> > > > > lessons. One
> > > > > being that there is always a tendency to exaggerate figures when
> > > > > it comes to
> > > > > human loss.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But accuracy is always useful, and doesn't reduce the loss. In
> > > > > fact accuracy
> > > > > adds to the dignity of those who have suffered the loss. In
> essence
> > > > > multiplying figures is reflective of a tendency to take refuge in
> > > > > propagandaand cloth the truth with it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr Durrani in his post has said: "….for killing of more than 3000
> > > > > Kashmiripandits. Not to talk of rape and arson against this
> > > > > community."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I wonder where this figure of "3000" has come from? What is Mr
> Durrani
> > > > > trying to prove or achieve by multiplying the number of killings?
> > > > > Is he
> > > > > helping the community by exaggerating the figure?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > According to the Jammu and Kashmir government, 208 Kashmiri
> > > > > pandits were
> > > > > killed in the state from 1990 to 2006.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It has to be understood that multiplying figures is dangerously
> > > > > counterproductive for those who call themselves as the champions
> and
> > > > > custodians of the interest of Kashmiri Pandits. Forget about the
> > > > > use of
> > > > > words like genocide, holocaust, pogrom, ethnic cleansing and so
> on...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kashmir's history will be written by those who have dreamed of a
> 'just
> > > > > Kashmir'.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Let it be asked to Mr Durrani... Is he writing history, or trying
> > > > > to create
> > > > > it to suite a program that translates 'democracy' into what it has
> > > > > actuallybeen in all practice... **Majoritarianism.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Wali
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