[Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?

[Krishna Chaithanya]

Then it was not Kashmir which has been intolerant towards Hindus. It was the Rulers of Kashmiri(Where they Kashmiris?) So who was intolerant was it the Rulers? or the Kashmiris? (but then how can you seperate the Pundits from Kashmiris?)

You are either confusing me or you are confused.

KC

Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:02:06 +0530
From: pawan.durani at gmail.com
To: tulunadu at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
CC: asitredsalute at gmail.com; reader-list at sarai.net

Dear Krishna , 
 
If the mojority is peace loving , the militants can still rule them . Wasn't "Bharat" a hindu country even when few hundred Afghan muslims came and ruled them ?  Did that make Bharat a non muslim during that time. 

 
Please check the history of Kashmir , though it is unfortunate that you have missed that so far.
 
God Bless all .....people who know and even those who dont
 
Pawan
 


 
On 1/20/08, Krishna Chaithanya <tulunadu at hotmail.com> wrote:

"It is a historical fact that Kashmir has been intolerant towards hindus since last almost 1000 years and there have been more than 8 major exodus of
Kashmiri pandits ".

Does that mean that Kashmir was never a Hindu Country...!? What are you saying Pawan?

KC


> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:43:38 +0530
> From: pawan.durani at gmail.com
> To: 
asitredsalute at gmail.com
> CC: reader-list at sarai.net 

> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
> 
> Dear Mr Asit ,
> 
> I just wanted to clarify that the word Kashmiriat was used very cleaverly by

> Kashmiri Muslim leaders to hide the atrocities on Kashmiri Hindus.
> 
> It is a historical fact that Kashmir has been intolerant towards hindus
> since last almost 1000 years and there have been more than 8 major exodus of

> Kashmiri pandits .
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pawan Durani
> 
> 
> On 1/20/08, Asit asitreds <
asitredsalute at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > lets not communalise the kashmir scene with talking about pandits and
> > muslims what is imporatnt is kasmiriyat ant the national liberation of

> > kashmir it is a occcupied territory of both pakistan and india we make a
> > big
> > scene about pandits what about thousands of kasmiri youth killed by the
> > indian army the tortures the rapes and the natinal indignination of kasmir

> > its not a question of hindus or muslims but the colonisation of kasmir by
> > india and pakistan
> >
> > asit
> >
> >
> > On 1/20/08, 
radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Same is the case when Theesta and the likes with "secular" media claim

> > > "thousands of " muslims bucthered in Gujarath, but who bothers about
> > truth
> > > when one can get saudi riyals to defend the traitors of the nation with
> > > highly paid "criminal" lawyers. ?

> > > In riot both hindus and muslims loose their beloved, many lives are
> > lost,
> > > but this has origin in creating the Pakistan and then not encouraging
> > the
> > > indian muslims to go the land and nation they created for faith, after

> > > promising to live in India like brothers to their society. ?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Wali Arifi <
waliarifi3 at gmail.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:58 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
> > > To: reader-list <
reader-list at sarai.net>
> > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Last two decades of turbulence in Kashmir have taught us many

> > > > lessons. One
> > > > being that there is always a tendency to exaggerate figures when
> > > > it comes to
> > > > human loss.
> > > >

> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But accuracy is always useful, and doesn't reduce the loss. In
> > > > fact accuracy
> > > > adds to the dignity of those who have suffered the loss. In essence

> > > > multiplying figures is reflective of a tendency to take refuge in
> > > > propagandaand cloth the truth with it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> > > > Mr Durrani in his post has said: "….for killing of more than 3000
> > > > Kashmiripandits. Not to talk of rape and arson against this
> > > > community."
> > > >

> > > >
> > > > I wonder where this figure of "3000" has come from? What is Mr Durrani
> > > > trying to prove or achieve by multiplying the number of killings?
> > > > Is he

> > > > helping the community by exaggerating the figure?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > According to the Jammu and Kashmir government, 208 Kashmiri

> > > > pandits were
> > > > killed in the state from 1990 to 2006.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It has to be understood that multiplying figures is dangerously

> > > > counterproductive for those who call themselves as the champions and
> > > > custodians of the interest of Kashmiri Pandits. Forget about the
> > > > use of
> > > > words like genocide, holocaust, pogrom, ethnic cleansing and so on...

> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kashmir's history will be written by those who have dreamed of a 'just
> > > > Kashmir'.
> > > >

> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Let it be asked to Mr Durrani... Is he writing history, or trying
> > > > to create
> > > > it to suite a program that translates 'democracy' into what it has

> > > > actuallybeen in all practice... **Majoritarianism.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Wali
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