[Reader-list] 'Tolerant Kashmiris': An editorial in Etalaat

Fri Jul 4 15:38:54 IST 2008

As I understand, private,public, local, indigenous,
religious,communal,national so on and so forth !!

all these are just terms & concepts to understand 'life' and not segments
of  life. and all of these have been used and abused by many.

As far as ' non public life ' comments of  Partha are concerned, I don't see
any reason why  It won't create any  opinion. public or what so ever.

Yunus

On 7/4/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Partha ,
>
> you are not in public life....Shivam is . He is a journalist who creates
> public opinions.
>
> That makes a difference.
>
> Lastly ......what made Ghulam Nabi Azaad impose curfew in Jammu , while as
> Kashmir was let loose..
>
> Pawan
>
>
> On 7/4/08, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Radhikarajen,
> >
> > 1.   I have friends, some of whom are Muslims. When I make friends, I
> > look at whether
> >      or not I like them and if I can vibe with them. There caste /
> > relegion or even lack
> >      thereof is irrelevant to me.
> >
> > 2.   I stay in my own house and eat my own food. Though I do travel to
> > my friends house
> >      and eat there as well.
> >
> > Does this mean that my body or mind is being held hostage?
> >
> > That logic is ridiculous. If you disagree with any statement or
> > position that someone has taken, go ahead and disagree.
> >
> > However, none of us have super powers to be able to read anyone's mind
> > and know why they are saying what - unless you're going to claim you
> > do?
> >
> > Rgds, Partha
> > ..................................................
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:57 PM,  <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> > > Hi, Shivam,
> > >
> > >     who is financing your stay in Srinagar, it looks like you are being
> > held hostage with good food and your thoughts are that of a hostage
> talking
> > good about his kidnappers.! By the way I hope you are guest of Gulam nabi
> or
> > Mufti as both are known spin doctors who use the bakras like you.?
> > >
> > >  Regards.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com>
> > > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008 8:53 pm
> > > Subject: [Reader-list] 'Tolerant Kashmiris': An editorial in Etalaat
> > > To: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > >
> > >> Tolerant Kashmiris
> > >> 26 June, 2008 08:10:48
> > >> http://www.etalaat.net/english/viewpoint/editorial/1111.html
> > >>
> > >> Vested interests are all out to communalize the on-going agitation
> > >> against transfer of forest land to the Amarnath Shrine Board. Time and
> > >> again it has been made clear that the on-going agitation is not
> > >> against the Yatra or the Yatries. The agitation is against
> > >> politicization of the Yatra. Kashmiris want the government to entrust
> > >> the job of conducting and facilitating Yatra to the local people who
> > >> have been conducting it effectively since 1860.
> > >>
> > >> To understand the on-going agitation against land transfer in its
> > >> right perspectives one has to look into the history of Kashmir.When
> > >> important decisions concerning the future of Kashmir were taken
> > >> Kashmiris were always ignored. In 1947 a decision was imposed on the
> > >> reluctant people and since then the trend continues. In early 60s the
> > >> government of India omitted Article 238 from Indian constitution and
> > >> thus rendered article 370 infructious. The Article 370 which
> > >> guarantees a special status to the state of Jammu Kashmir reads: "Not
> > >> withstanding any thing nothing in Article 238 shall apply to the state
> > >> of Jammu Kashmir." Article 370 is still there but article 238 which
> > >> contained the heart and soul of 370 is not there in the constitution.
> > >> Kashmiris to this day do not know about this fraud.
> > >>
> > >> Similarly the government of India abolished the permit system which
> > >> required the non-state subjects to obtain a permit for entering the
> > >> state. Again the people were not taken into confidence.  In 1975 a
> > >> popular movement was strangled. Again the people did not protest. In
> > >> 1978 the draconian public safety act (PSA) was framed. People did not
> > >> protest. In 1984 TADA was extended to the state. People remained
> > >> silent. The Gulmarg issue shook them and the transfer of land did the
> > >> miracle. Even this time the government had taken the people for
> > >> granted.
> > >>
> > >> People are angry but they have not thrown caution to the winds. They
> > >> have upheld the high traditions of tolerance and have not harmed any
> > >> Yatri or a tourist. This is exactly what Islam teaches them. The
> > >> Yatries are welcome and so are the tourists. Kashmiris are known for
> > >> their hospitality and they will not disappoint the pilgrims and other
> > >> guests.
> > >>
> > >> History is witness to the fact that Kashmiris have always protected
> > >> their non-Muslim brethren.  Hundreds of instances can be quoted to
> > >> prove the point. However, the following incident shall suffice. A
> > >> person who retired as the Chief Conservator of Forests lived in
> > >> Shahr-e-Khaas during his college days. One day while on his way to the
> > >> college he was intercepted by a crowd. Taken for a Bakra (A supporter
> > >> of Mirwaiz Yusuf Shah) he was given  sound thrashing. Somehow he ran
> > >> away but only to be caught by another violent group. This time he was
> > >> taken for a Sher (Supporter of Sheikh Abdullah) and beaten to pulp.
> > >> Again he managed his escape. When caught for the third time, he
> > >> shouted: "I am a Pandit." Nobody touched him this time. He was given
> > >> safe passage.
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