[Reader-list] Farewell to our Humid Weimar

[Shivam Vij शिवम् विज्]

And what I meant to say is that I have a problem with not only getting
personal in arguments, but more than that, this club mentality, this
holier-than-thou approach that if you are a journalist you would know
this, and you are a researcher you would know more of this, and if you
are a housewife you must be an ignoramus because you don't have access
to channels of information. In the age of the internet I don't
subscribe to such elitist ides of knowledge.

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 9:10 PM, prakash ray <pkray11 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Shivam,
>
> What I meant to say that since you are a reporter, you could have collectted
> more on that since as reporter you have certain avenues and previledges, and
> through your contacts and fellow-reporters. No. I am not anything, just a
> member on this list. I had joined DD in 2003, later same year UNI. also
> worked with India TV for sometime when Tarun Tejpal, Editor-in-Chief, was
> associated with the chhanel alongwith Ms Menaka Gandhi, a BJP MP. You are
> right that a non-reporter can do research. I also left media to be a
> researcher.
>
> Prakash
>
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > Shivam could have researched on the matter since he is a reporter
>> > himself.
>>
>> I wonder why a non-reporter can't do research. And if you know these
>> things, are you a supra-editor or something????
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 8:52 PM, prakash ray <pkray11 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > It is not surprising to hear some of the 'liberated' ones (read Shuddha,
>> > Shivam and Salim) mouthing anti-Left arguments over the current debate
>> over
>> > the nuclear deal. People like them, as far as I remember, have 'always'
>> > attacked the Left without any gap or break. I do not want to blame them
>> for
>> > their political positions, but I would accuse them for their
>> > shortsightedness for not seeing or observing any positive contribution or
>> > position of the Left. Some of us consider ourselves 'liberated' since we
>> > write, read and lecture, and we only do that. We forget that our 'false
>> > sense of liberation' is a mere reflection of our handsome salaries and
>> > convenient middle class location. And I do not consider that a sin.
>> However,
>> > I request them to reconsider their 'holier than all' approach.
>> >
>> > Coming to the issue of the Deal, I am wondering they do not articulate
>> their
>> > position except mouthing anti- everything nuclear sacredness. Their
>> belief
>> > of the Left and BJP coming together is speculative and based on a report
>> > appeared in Times Now website. Let me ask them that they believe what the
>> > TOI and its associates say on the Deal or the Nano car or economic
>> policies
>> > etc. Shivam could have researched on the matter since he is a reporter
>> > himself. I would like to hear from Shuddha on the support extended by the
>> > Left to the UPA for the last four years. Mr Advani getting interviewed in
>> > the Hindu must be looked at a mere media exercise. Every
>> > newspaper/magazine/channel including Tehlka publishes interviews of the
>> > politicians of all colours including Mr Mahendra Karma of the Salwa Judum
>> > infamy. The Hindu 'also' publishes Ms Arundhati Roy at regular
>> intervention
>> > and it was Mr N Ram who interviewed the former President K R Narayanan on
>> > the eve of the Republic Day which was telecast on DD in place of the
>> > customary prez speeches. And here on the Sarai reder list, the
>> right-wingers
>> > get more space. Should one read it as 'something' about the moderator or
>> > Shuddha himself?
>> >
>> > I see the Deal as a profound sign of the Govt's closeness to the US
>> > administration that is waging war against mankind everywhere and
>> > continuously demonizing the opposing sections worldwide. I do not find
>> any
>> > fault if someone sees the Deal as anti-Muslim given the fact that the US
>> and
>> > Indian Govts are continuously targeting the community. I do not think the
>> > readers need fact related to this. I do not find any fault if someone
>> sees
>> > the deal as an attack on the national sovereignty since I consider the
>> > nation as a weapon against the growing imperialist attack on the poor and
>> > less-powerful nations. I support the alliance of such nation against the
>> > policies and politics of the US.
>> >
>> > Opposing the Deal is to oppose every evil of the Imperialism.
>> >
>> > Let me ask some simple questions:
>> >
>> > Was the Left wrong when they supported the UPA led by the Congress?
>> > Should the Left continue the support so that Dr Singh could go ahead with
>> > the Deal?
>> > Should the Deal be supported since the BJP might get benefit in elections
>> if
>> > the Govt falls?
>> > Since BJP has members in the Loksabha, should the Left oppose or support
>> > everything only on the basis of the position taken by the BJP?
>> > Are the policies of Mr Bush not guided by the ideology of the 'clash of
>> > civilizations'?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Prakash
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