[Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University History

TaraPrakash taraprakash at gmail.com
Mon Mar 3 19:50:07 IST 2008


Very peaceful in deed. They peacefully murder teachers and students. It's 
all about elections.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aditya Raj Kaul" <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
To: <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University History


> Below is a newsitem from the Indian Express. Unlike SFI, ABVP has decided 
> to
> launch peacefull college to college awareness campaign. Unlike left lazy 
> and
> violent left wing, ABVP looks at the broader picture of students studies
> which should not get affected. Its high time left cheap publicity seekers
> wake up and do some brainstorming. God Bless All. :-)
>
> Remarks on Lord Ram in textbook: ABVP to hold protests in DU colleges
>  **
> *Posted online: Monday , March 03, 2008 at 10:31:30
> * **
> *New Delhi, March 2* The ABVP is planning to hold protests across Delhi
> University colleges against the inclusion of "atrocious" remarks on Lord 
> Ram
> in its history text books, activists said.'
>
> Twenty-four hours after being released from Tihar Jail, state joint
> secretary of ABVP Vikas Dahiya—who was arrested on Tuesday for violent
> protests in the university on the issue—said he wants the police to take
> action against the DU V-C Deepak Pental.
>
> He also demanded for action against head of the department (History) S Z H
> Jafri and Upinder Singh, daughter of Prime Minster Manmohan Singh, whose
> name is printed on the book as the compiler.
>
> "We are planning to lodge an FIR against them for hurting the religious
> sentiments of Hindus," Dahiya said at a press conference held at North
> Campus today.
>
> From Monday, Vikas said, ABVP activists would visit at least two colleges
> each day to seek support from principals and students for a college-wise
> demonstration.
>
> Vikas alleged the Delhi Police and DU authorities were biased and said 
> that
> though arrest warrants were issued against eight persons, there were only
> five people in the building during the violence.
>
> "When Amrita Bahri and Devraj Tehlan of the NSUI ran amok in the History
> Department last year, no action was taken against them," he claimed.
>
> Payal Mago, reader in DU and vice president of ABVP, said that if Upinder
> Singh had not compiled the material as claimed by History Department, 
> "what
> took her so long to deny charges".
>
> "The book has been in circulation for around one and a half years. She 
> could
> have corrected the mistake any time," she said.
>
>
> On 3/3/08, radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, with one billion and more people, let there be that many Ramayanas in
>> their freedom of expression and creativity, but the issue here is does
>> freedom of expression is only to denigrete others faith. ? Those places 
>> of
>> learning which are filled with chamchas and hangers on who deride hindu
>> faith should write that many bibles and qurans also, that is secularism 
>> at
>> work. !
>> Regards.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Prem Chandavarkar <prem.cnt at gmail.com>
>> Date: Monday, March 3, 2008 9:58 am
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University History
>> To: Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
>> Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
>>
>> > On 03/03/2008, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > We were well know that originally there are only two Ramayan's
>> > that we
>> > > recognise; one by Tulsidas and another by Valmiki. There maybe a few
>> > > hundred
>> > > more stories based on poetry from various places etc. But, lets
>> > for a
>> > > change
>> > > concentrate on the original source while studying history in an
>> > > institution
>> > > rather then secondary and modern opinions, translations etc etc.
>> >
>> >
>> > To me, such a statement is the heart of the problem, and is the
>> > reason why
>> > this discussion thread started in the first place.  It implies
>> > that there is
>> > a primary authoritative history which must be regarded, and many
>> > secondaryhistories which can be immediately dismissed as inferior
>> > and ignorable.
>> >
>> > Such a classification should also be accompanied by an ethical and
>> > intellectual justification of the basis on which it is made.  It
>> > cannot be
>> > merely stated that this must be so because it is a majority belief
>> > or a
>> > historical imperative that has endured for ages, for that is the
>> > argumentthat was used to defend colonialism, slavery and apartheid.
>> >
>> > Let me link this to an earlier thread on history and archive, and put
>> > forward the following proposition:  The archive is an ethical,
>> > rather than
>> > epistemological, imperative of history as a discipline.  History
>> > cannot be
>> > ethically validated without the discipline incorporating an
>> > ongoing discourse on the basis of which something is to be
>> > categorised as
>> > archive, or dismissed as non-archive.
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