[Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University History

[radhikarajen at vsnl.net]

Very peaceful indeed, when they murdered taxi drivers , very peaceful indeed when they murdered the poor villagers and peasents for grabbing the land for SEZ.! Hypocracy at its nadir. !

----- Original Message -----
From: TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com>
Date: Monday, March 3, 2008 7:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University History
To: Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>, reader-list at sarai.net

> Very peaceful in deed. They peacefully murder teachers and 
> students. It's 
> all about elections.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Aditya Raj Kaul" <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
> To: <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University History
> 
> 
> > Below is a newsitem from the Indian Express. Unlike SFI, ABVP 
> has decided 
> > to
> > launch peacefull college to college awareness campaign. Unlike 
> left lazy 
> > and
> > violent left wing, ABVP looks at the broader picture of students 
> studies> which should not get affected. Its high time left cheap 
> publicity seekers
> > wake up and do some brainstorming. God Bless All. :-)
> >
> > Remarks on Lord Ram in textbook: ABVP to hold protests in DU 
> colleges>  **
> > *Posted online: Monday , March 03, 2008 at 10:31:30
> > * **
> > *New Delhi, March 2* The ABVP is planning to hold protests 
> across Delhi
> > University colleges against the inclusion of "atrocious" remarks 
> on Lord 
> > Ram
> > in its history text books, activists said.'
> >
> > Twenty-four hours after being released from Tihar Jail, state joint
> > secretary of ABVP Vikas Dahiya—who was arrested on Tuesday for 
> violent> protests in the university on the issue—said he wants the 
> police to take
> > action against the DU V-C Deepak Pental.
> >
> > He also demanded for action against head of the department 
> (History) S Z H
> > Jafri and Upinder Singh, daughter of Prime Minster Manmohan 
> Singh, whose
> > name is printed on the book as the compiler.
> >
> > "We are planning to lodge an FIR against them for hurting the 
> religious> sentiments of Hindus," Dahiya said at a press 
> conference held at North
> > Campus today.
> >
> > From Monday, Vikas said, ABVP activists would visit at least two 
> colleges> each day to seek support from principals and students 
> for a college-wise
> > demonstration.
> >
> > Vikas alleged the Delhi Police and DU authorities were biased 
> and said 
> > that
> > though arrest warrants were issued against eight persons, there 
> were only
> > five people in the building during the violence.
> >
> > "When Amrita Bahri and Devraj Tehlan of the NSUI ran amok in the 
> History> Department last year, no action was taken against them," 
> he claimed.
> >
> > Payal Mago, reader in DU and vice president of ABVP, said that 
> if Upinder
> > Singh had not compiled the material as claimed by History 
> Department, 
> > "what
> > took her so long to deny charges".
> >
> > "The book has been in circulation for around one and a half 
> years. She 
> > could
> > have corrected the mistake any time," she said.
> >
> >
> > On 3/3/08, radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi, with one billion and more people, let there be that many 
> Ramayanas in
> >> their freedom of expression and creativity, but the issue here 
> is does
> >> freedom of expression is only to denigrete others faith. ? 
> Those places 
> >> of
> >> learning which are filled with chamchas and hangers on who 
> deride hindu
> >> faith should write that many bibles and qurans also, that is 
> secularism 
> >> at
> >> work. !
> >> Regards.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Prem Chandavarkar <prem.cnt at gmail.com>
> >> Date: Monday, March 3, 2008 9:58 am
> >> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University 
> History>> To: Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
> >> Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
> >>
> >> > On 03/03/2008, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > We were well know that originally there are only two Ramayan's
> >> > that we
> >> > > recognise; one by Tulsidas and another by Valmiki. There 
> maybe a few
> >> > > hundred
> >> > > more stories based on poetry from various places etc. But, lets
> >> > for a
> >> > > change
> >> > > concentrate on the original source while studying history 
> in an
> >> > > institution
> >> > > rather then secondary and modern opinions, translations etc 
> etc.>> >
> >> >
> >> > To me, such a statement is the heart of the problem, and is the
> >> > reason why
> >> > this discussion thread started in the first place.  It implies
> >> > that there is
> >> > a primary authoritative history which must be regarded, and many
> >> > secondaryhistories which can be immediately dismissed as inferior
> >> > and ignorable.
> >> >
> >> > Such a classification should also be accompanied by an 
> ethical and
> >> > intellectual justification of the basis on which it is made.  It
> >> > cannot be
> >> > merely stated that this must be so because it is a majority 
> belief>> > or a
> >> > historical imperative that has endured for ages, for that is the
> >> > argumentthat was used to defend colonialism, slavery and 
> apartheid.>> >
> >> > Let me link this to an earlier thread on history and archive, 
> and put
> =3E> > forward the following proposition:  The archive is an ethical,
> >> > rather than
> >> > epistemological, imperative of history as a discipline.  History
> >> > cannot be
> >> > ethically validated without the discipline incorporating an
> >> > ongoing discourse on the basis of which something is to be
> >> > categorised as
> >> > archive, or dismissed as non-archive.
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