[Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University History

[radhikarajen at vsnl.net]

Hi,

but has anyone wondered why a law minister of the nation allows the additional solicitor general of the nation to fly at midnight and beg the authorities to defreeze the 21 crores held in london to uncle Q without the knowledge of the Supreme court of the nation. ?
  Has anyone wondered how the "criminal" lawyers who defended the loot of kickbacks all got in to rajyasabha as MPs as rewards of good work done by constant induced delays in ivestigation in the kickbacks case, by stays with single judges in high courts of delhi, later promoted to higher courts, now famous or infamous as Bofors. ?
  Has anyone wondered why the oldest party needs an italian who came to study language certifiate course in part time, has to be the "strong woman" and mother of all sacrifices. ?

 Regards.
----- Original Message -----
From: Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
Date: Monday, March 3, 2008 9:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University History
To: reader-list at sarai.net

> Have you ever wondered why the Ujjain Murder Case of Prof. 
> Sabharwal has yet
> not been solved ? You may say that Madhya Pradesh has a BJP let 
> Govt. which
> controls everything directly or indirectly and influences every 
> step taken.
> But, for your information; the case is now in Supreme Court and 
> yet no
> Justice. As I was personally linked with fighting the cases of 
> Jessica Lall
> and Priyadarshini Mattoo; I tried to help Prof. Sabharwal's son in 
> this case
> but unfortunately it was nothing much then a Congress -BJP tussle. 
> I've seen
> the video recordings of the entire episode much before and even 
> after the
> incident. The whole episode has many negative elements apart from 
> ABVP which
> have played a strong role. I've also met the senior advocate of 
> supremecourt who happens to be the lawyer of Sabharwal's even he 
> is tired of this
> BJP-Congress game. You'll have to investigate it further before 
> mere playing
> of blame game.
> 
> We both agree to disagree with each other. But, its for sure that 
> in today's
> senario be it NSUI, ABVP or for that matter the left SFI; they 
> have lost
> their track and are directionless moving in this democracy. They 
> blindly go
> on the way their masters want them get in. The crores of monet 
> spent on
> glamourous student body elections especially in Delhi is well 
> known to all.
> And, still this silence. It speaks volumes about the stumbling system.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/3/08, TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Very peaceful in deed. They peacefully murder teachers and 
> students. It's
> > all about elections.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Aditya Raj Kaul" <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
> > To: <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University History
> >
> >
> > > Below is a newsitem from the Indian Express. Unlike SFI, ABVP has
> > decided
> > > to
> > > launch peacefull college to college awareness campaign. Unlike 
> left lazy
> > > and
> > > violent left wing, ABVP looks at the broader picture of 
> students studies
> > > which should not get affected. Its high time left cheap publicity
> > seekers
> > > wake up and do some brainstorming. God Bless All. :-)
> > >
> > > Remarks on Lord Ram in textbook: ABVP to hold protests in DU 
> colleges> >  **
> > > *Posted online: Monday , March 03, 2008 at 10:31:30
> > > * **
> > > *New Delhi, March 2* The ABVP is planning to hold protests 
> across Delhi
> > > University colleges against the inclusion of "atrocious" 
> remarks on Lord
> > > Ram
> > > in its history text books, activists said.'
> > >
> > > Twenty-four hours after being released from Tihar Jail, state 
> joint> > secretary of ABVP Vikas Dahiya—who was arrested on 
> Tuesday for violent
> > > protests in the university on the issue—said he wants the 
> police to take
> > > action against the DU V-C Deepak Pental.
> > >
> > > He also demanded for action against head of the department 
> (History) S Z
> > H
> > > Jafri and Upinder Singh, daughter of Prime Minster Manmohan 
> Singh, whose
> > > name is printed on the book as the compiler.
> > >
> > > "We are planning to lodge an FIR against them for hurting the 
> religious> > sentiments of Hindus," Dahiya said at a press 
> conference held at North
> > > Campus today.
> > >
> > > From Monday, Vikas said, ABVP activists would visit at least two
> > colleges
> > > each day to seek support from principals and students for a 
> college-wise
> > > demonstration.
> > >
> > > Vikas alleged the Delhi Police and DU authorities were biased 
> and said
> > > that
> > > though arrest warrants were issued against eight persons, 
> there were
> > only
> > > five people in the building during the violence.
> > >
> > > "When Amrita Bahri and Devraj Tehlan of the NSUI ran amok in 
> the History
> > > Department last year, no action was taken against them," he 
> claimed.> >
> > > Payal Mago, reader in DU and vice president of ABVP, said that if
> > Upinder
> > > Singh had not compiled the material as claimed by History 
> Department,> > "what
> > > took her so long to deny charges".
> > >
> > > "The book has been in circulation for around one and a half 
> years. She
> > > could
> > > have corrected the mistake any time," she said.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/3/08, radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi, with one billion and morepeople, let there be that many 
> Ramayanas> in
> > >> their freedom of expression and creativity, but the issue 
> here is does
> > >> freedom of expression is only to denigrete others faith. ? 
> Those places
> > >> of
> > >> learning which are filled with chamchas and hangers on who 
> deride hindu
> > >> faith should write that many bibles and qurans also, that is 
> secularism> >> at
> > >> work. !
> > >> Regards.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Prem Chandavarkar <prem.cnt at gmail.com>
> > >> Date: Monday, March 3, 2008 9:58 am
> > >> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Assault upon the Delhi University 
> History> >> To: Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
> > >> Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
> > >>
> > >> > On 03/03/2008, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We were well know that originally there are only two 
> Ramayan's> >> > that we
> > >> > > recognise; one by Tulsidas and another by Valmiki. There 
> maybe a
> > few
> > >> > > hundred
> > >> > > more stories based on poetry from various places etc. 
> But, lets
> > >> > for a
> > >> > > change
> > >> > > concentrate on the original source while studying history 
> in an
> > >> > > institution
> > >> > > rather then secondary and modern opinions, translations 
> etc etc.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > To me, such a statement is the heart of the problem, and is the
> > >> > reason why
> > >> > this discussion thread started in the first place.  It implies
> > >> > that there is
> > >> > a primary authoritative history which must be regarded, and 
> many> >> > secondaryhistories which can be immediately dismissed 
> as inferior
> > >> > and ignorable.
> > >> >
> > >> > Such a classification should also be accompanied by an 
> ethical and
> > >> > intellectual justification of the basis on which it is 
> made.  It
> > >> > cannot be
> > >> > merely stated that this must be so because it is a majority 
> belief> >> > or a
> > >> > historical imperative that has endured for ages, for that 
> is the
> > >> > argumentthat was used to defend colonialism, slavery and 
> apartheid.> >> >
> > >> > Let me link this to an earlier thread on history and 
> archive, and put
> > >> > forward the following proposition:  The archive is an ethical,
> > >> > rather than
> > >> > epistemological, imperative of history as a discipline.  
> History> >> > cannot be
> > >> > ethically validated without the discipline incorporating an
> > >> > ongoing discourse on the basis of which something is to be
> > >> > categorised as
> > >> > archive, or dismissed as non-archive.
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