[Reader-list] Fwd: Sanjay Kak on Ram Guha's Book

Aditya Raj Kaul kauladityaraj at gmail.com
Sun Mar 9 00:23:27 IST 2008 

Now, I wouldn't let you change the topic so easy. Not all encounters are
fake; remember that. A major role has been played by Hurriyat, JKLF etc to e
xaggerate about many killings; so that there is no harm to their bread and
butter. With media and humar rights groups always glued to Kashmir; this is
an opportunity to exploit to their best.

Would by this statement you made; you justify Killings of thousands of
Kashmiri Pandits ?

Would you justify destruction of 600 odd temples (if not more) of the valley
?

Do you support those mindless terrorists who led the terrorism in the
Kashmir vally in 1990; which let to the exodus of half a million souls ?

Your bold beauty Sanjay Kak; remains blind and deaf to these blunt truths;
which unfortunately have been suffered by his own community. Not that I
still believe that he is a Kashmiri Pandit. Kak has been silent on his own
communities sufferings; but it pains him more when we speak about his hero
Yasin Malik.

Now, even a blind would guess the reality behind Kak.

Many months back I had written a very small piece about Kak and his master
sahab. Just a few days after I posted it on my blog; my blog was hacked. I
don't want to accuse anybody.. let everyone judge by their ownselves. Let
each individuals conscience speak,,,

The URL to that piece on my blog is -
http://kauladityaraj.blogspot.com/2007/08/sanjay-kak-and-his-dreams-of-aazadi.html

God Bless !

Aditya Raj Kaul


On 3/8/08, Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> what is a crap movie is ramand sagars calender art justifying
> irrationalism obscurantism ,fusing mythology with history a great
> movie
>
> On 3/8/08, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Asit...
> >
> > Pawan Durani atleast didn't write a biased review or a biased film which
> was
> > exposed later by common Kashmiri's. So, I suggest you keep Sanjay Kak's
> bold
> > image away from Reader's List. He is still to answer a lot of questions
> from
> > common people.
> >
> > Your bold hero Sanjay Kak did a screening of his film something Aazadi
> at my
> > Ramjas College in New Delhi with some of his close friends helping him
> out
> > there. The college was left without any notice; and it was ensured till
> the
> > last minute that I don't come to know about it. I wish Kak and his
> friends
> > some fearless freedom from us. Though as always not many were interested
> in
> > his crap movie.
> >
> > With Warm Regards,
> > Aditya Raj Kaul
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/8/08, Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > dear friends
> > > there has to be some grace and decency in public debates name calling
> > > is juvenile and obscene as if all the  redears list debaters are nobel
> > > prize winners stooping down to the personal under the belt  and
> > > disgraceful attack on sanjay kak i ask who is pawan durani
> > > any one conscious on social issues knows that sanjay kak is a bold
> > > film maker who exposed indian states genocide in kashmir
> > > asitOn 3/6/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Dear Partha ,
> > > >
> > > > Let me just ask "Who is Sanjay Kak ?"
> > > >
> > > > Being honest months before the release of some fiction movie called
> > > :Jashn -
> > > > Kashmir " or something like that , i had a querry from a well known
> > > lobyist
> > > > enquirying about Mr Kak. I pleaded my ignorance.
> > > >
> > > > And I still dont want to know him , for he has tried to do the
> largest
> > > > damage to a victimised community called Kashmiri Hindus.
> > > >
> > > > Having said that , i still would like to challenge his knowledge on
> > > Kashmir
> > > > , and would like to have a public , academic and intellectual debate
> > > with
> > > > him. He may bring in his guests like Yasin Malik to support him.
> > > >
> > > > Last time he met Rashneek at Green Park , he just pleaded ignorance
> > > about
> > > > History.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Pawan Durani
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/6/08, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Dhatri,
> > > > >
> > > > > a) As far as Kashmir is concerned, neither Sanjay Kak nor Aditya
> nor
> > > > > Pawan
> > > > > are
> > > > > loving there. That's precisely why Aditya & Pawan are talking
> about
> > > > > being
> > > > > dispossesed and the pain of not living there.
> > > > >
> > > > > b) Sanjay Kak depicted his point of view as an artist / film
> maker. If
> > > > > anyone disagrees
> > > > > they are welcome to make their viewpoint heard. He has merely
> depicted
> > > > > one part
> > > > > or view of a status as he sees it.
> > > > >
> > > > > c) Neither of the above points have anything to do with the
> current
> > > > > debate.
> > > > > If you feel
> > > > > that there is a lack of veracity in the current debate that is on,
> > > > > please respond to
> > > > > specific portions with your own references.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rgds, Partha
> > > > > ..................................
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:04 PM, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The logic is pretty simple and reachable. Sanjay kak produce
> false
> > > > > > facts these people including Sanjay kak knew that they are
> > > > > false. Sanjay
> > > > > > kak is not a living being of Jammu and Kashmir like Pawan and
> > > > > Aditya,.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com>* wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Aditya,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's a bit like asking who's Pawan or Aditya or, for that
> matter,
> > > > > > Partha.
> > > > > > None of us on this list know each other yet we still have the
> > > > > intellectual
> > > > > > honesty to look clearly at a point of view and debate it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who Sanjay Kak is does not matter. What matters is his point of
> > > view,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > you disagree with it, why?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rgds, Partha
> > > > > > .................
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good One Pawan. :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why is an "Intellectual Forum" namely Sarai geting into a
> > > discussion
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > review written by just another person ? Pawan asks rightly,
> Who is
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > Sanjay Kak ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > Aditya Raj Kaul
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 3/5/08, Pawan Durani wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Joke of the day : Kak's review comes like a breath of
> > > honest,fresh
> > > > > > air.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sanjay Kak and being Honest ........I saw snow on Mumbai
> streets
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 3/5/08, Namrata Kakkar wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dear everybody,
> > > > > > > > > Having read Sanjay Sub's wrong but
> > > > > > > > > back patting, ridiculous review on the SARAI list, I
> > > > > > > > > was just wondering how could readers at Sarai list
> > > > > > > > > tolerate such nonsensical bribery, blind eye
> > > > > > > > > stupidity. Kak's review comes like a breath of honest,
> > > > > > > > > fresh air. But couldn't Sanjay Sub. himself raise
> > > > > > > > > these questions? Infact anybody a bit literate enough
> > > > > > > > > would tear this book into shreds; but Sanajy could not
> > > > > > > > > do so since Ram Guha is now a new promoter in the
> > > > > > > > > Indian circles--mustering and manipulating crores of
> > > > > > > > > rupees through his (i.e, Indian) Arts Foundation. Ram
> > > > > > > > > guha is a man with book length muscles now.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So even if he continues writing this bull
> > > > > > > > > shit, he will be a Sanjay's public historian ( like
> > > > > > > > > men love public woman ( sorry). One wonders if he too
> > > > > > > > > is aspiring a 50,000 rupees felllowship from Ram Guha.
> > > > > > > > > He may...
> > > > > > > > > But anyway, thank you SARAI.
> > > > > > > > > Namrata
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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