[Reader-list] "We were mute spectators"-Omar Abdullah

Fri May 16 15:27:22 IST 2008

Partha,

Please read the Times Now post.It is complete and nothing has been deleted.
Please check before you OBJECT.

Here is the link...
http://www.timesnow.tv/NewsDtls.aspx?NewsId=8419

Best

Rashneek

On 5/16/08, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 1.    I find it extremely strange that Pawan object to a post of the text
> of the message
>        by Nitesh on something as vague as asking him for a 'true ID' and
> then heralding
>        a glitzy part cover by Times Now as a post.
>
> 2.    I object to the post as it does not provide the full post of the
> message and instead
>        a part of the message and is covered by the journo's own stance
> without any extra
>        information to justify the cross post.
>
> 3.   If it was in thread / response of the same topic, why another post?
>       Unless it's necessary to be seen as an originator?
>
> Rgds, Partha
> ............................
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:58 PM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Partha,
>>
>> How much unsettled are you by Omar's comments is reflected in the two
>> sentences you have written.
>> Havent there been many posts from different newspapers/magazines on the
>> various issues.Why did that not irk you I wonder.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Rashneek
>>
>>  On 5/16/08, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that the bare bones text of the message is far better than the
>>> Times
>>> Now report.
>>>
>>> Also, don't see the point of this post when the main text of the
>>> statement
>>> was in the list earlier by Nitesh.
>>>
>>> Rgds, Partha
>>> .........................................
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul <
>>> kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Reality Unfolding :-)
>>> >
>>> > Sarai members, what say ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 5/16/08, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > *A Times Now Report by Mir Fareed
>>> > > *Two decades after the genocide of Kashmiri Pandits in the Valley,
>>> > National
>>> > > conference President Omar Abdullah has spoken up, saying that Muslims
>>> > > including him shouldn't have been mute spectators during the exodus.
>>> > >
>>> > > "It is a fact that the majority of us - and I include myself in it -
>>> the
>>> > > majority of us Kashmiris remained mute spectators when the Kashmiri
>>> > Pandits
>>> > > left. And even though now we may want to talk about their return, at
>>> that
>>> > > time perhaps we did not do as much as should have been done," said
>>> Omar
>>> > on
>>> > > Thursday (May 15).
>>> > >
>>> > > While the timing of his statement is questionable, what cannot be
>>> > > discounted
>>> > > is the fact that this is the first time a mainstream Kashmiri
>>> politician
>>> > > has
>>> > > spoken so strongly about the plight of  Kashmiri Pandits.
>>> > >
>>> > > Whether it's Rajya Sabha ticket that Omar is eyeing or a sudden prick
>>> of
>>> > > consience, the feeling of being refugees in their own country is not
>>> a
>>> > one
>>> > > that the Pandits are likely to forget soon.
>>> > >
>>> > > At the height of militancy in Jammu & Kashmir in 1990, propaganda
>>> from
>>> > > Pakistan laced with the militancy of the Jammu & Kashmir Liberation
>>> front
>>> > > forced lakhs of Kashmiri Pandits out the valley leaving thousands
>>> > homeless,
>>> > > and forcing them into exile.
>>> > >
>>> > > In his statement, which first appeared on his blog, Omar Abdullah
>>> even
>>> > > chatises himself for not speaking up on the genocide, lamenting the
>>> fact
>>> > > that none of them stood up and had the courage to say the atrocities
>>> must
>>> > > stop.
>>> > >
>>> > > "It's so easy to say that we"ll lay down our lives to bring Kashmiri
>>> > > Pandits
>>> > > back to the valley and I appreciate the sentiment. Pity that
>>> sentiment
>>> > was
>>> > > missing when our mosques were being used to drive these people out.
>>> None
>>> > of
>>> > > us said this is wrong and the Kashmiri Pandits had every right to
>>> > continue
>>> > > living in the valley. We were mute spectators either mute in
>>> agreement or
>>> > > mute in abject fear, but mute none the less," he writes.
>>> > >
>>> > > While this is the first time a mainstream Kashmiri politician has
>>> spoken
>>> > so
>>> > > strongly on the plight of these Kashmiri Pandits, Omar's sentiments
>>> will
>>> > > not
>>> > > make the Kashmiri Pandits forget the feeling of being refugees in
>>> their
>>> > own
>>> > > country, just yet.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Rashneek Kher
>>> > > http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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>>>
>>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  Rashneek Kher
>> http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Partha Dasgupta
> +919811047132

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Rashneek Kher
http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com