[Reader-list] "We were mute spectators"-Omar Abdullah

Partha Dasgupta parthaekka at gmail.com
Fri May 16 15:36:58 IST 2008 

Dear Rashneek,

If you did read my mail before shooting off a reply, you would notice that I
mentioned that the Journalist has not taken the full message of what Omar
Abdullah mentioned, and then put his own stance on it.

Like a typical TV report, it does not add any information and only contains
a synopsis that does not warrant a fresh post over an above the previous one
that contains the entire message.

Rgds, Partha
.......................

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com> wrote:

> Partha,
>
> Please read the Times Now post.It is complete and nothing has been deleted.
> Please check before you OBJECT.
>
> Here is the link...
> http://www.timesnow.tv/NewsDtls.aspx?NewsId=8419
>
> Best
>
> Rashneek
>
>
> On 5/16/08, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 1.    I find it extremely strange that Pawan object to a post of the text
>> of the message
>>        by Nitesh on something as vague as asking him for a 'true ID' and
>> then heralding
>>        a glitzy part cover by Times Now as a post.
>>
>> 2.    I object to the post as it does not provide the full post of the
>> message and instead
>>        a part of the message and is covered by the journo's own stance
>> without any extra
>>        information to justify the cross post.
>>
>> 3.   If it was in thread / response of the same topic, why another post?
>>       Unless it's necessary to be seen as an originator?
>>
>> Rgds, Partha
>> ............................
>>
>> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:58 PM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Partha,
>>>
>>> How much unsettled are you by Omar's comments is reflected in the two
>>> sentences you have written.
>>> Havent there been many posts from different newspapers/magazines on the
>>> various issues.Why did that not irk you I wonder.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Rashneek
>>>
>>>  On 5/16/08, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that the bare bones text of the message is far better than the
>>>> Times
>>>> Now report.
>>>>
>>>> Also, don't see the point of this post when the main text of the
>>>> statement
>>>> was in the list earlier by Nitesh.
>>>>
>>>> Rgds, Partha
>>>> .........................................
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul <
>>>> kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Reality Unfolding :-)
>>>> >
>>>> > Sarai members, what say ?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 5/16/08, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > *A Times Now Report by Mir Fareed
>>>> > > *Two decades after the genocide of Kashmiri Pandits in the Valley,
>>>> > National
>>>> > > conference President Omar Abdullah has spoken up, saying that
>>>> Muslims
>>>> > > including him shouldn't have been mute spectators during the exodus.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > "It is a fact that the majority of us - and I include myself in it -
>>>> the
>>>> > > majority of us Kashmiris remained mute spectators when the Kashmiri
>>>> > Pandits
>>>> > > left. And even though now we may want to talk about their return, at
>>>> that
>>>> > > time perhaps we did not do as much as should have been done," said
>>>> Omar
>>>> > on
>>>> > > Thursday (May 15).
>>>> > >
>>>> > > While the timing of his statement is questionable, what cannot be
>>>> > > discounted
>>>> > > is the fact that this is the first time a mainstream Kashmiri
>>>> politician
>>>> > > has
>>>> > > spoken so strongly about the plight of  Kashmiri Pandits.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Whether it's Rajya Sabha ticket that Omar is eyeing or a sudden
>>>> prick of
>>>> > > consience, the feeling of being refugees in their own country is not
>>>> a
>>>> > one
>>>> > > that the Pandits are likely to forget soon.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > At the height of militancy in Jammu & Kashmir in 1990, propaganda
>>>> from
>>>> > > Pakistan laced with the militancy of the Jammu & Kashmir Liberation
>>>> front
>>>> > > forced lakhs of Kashmiri Pandits out the valley leaving thousands
>>>> > homeless,
>>>> > > and forcing them into exile.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > In his statement, which first appeared on his blog, Omar Abdullah
>>>> even
>>>> > > chatises himself for not speaking up on the genocide, lamenting the
>>>> fact
>>>> > > that none of them stood up and had the courage to say the atrocities
>>>> must
>>>> > > stop.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > "It's so easy to say that we"ll lay down our lives to bring Kashmiri
>>>> > > Pandits
>>>> > > back to the valley and I appreciate the sentiment. Pity that
>>>> sentiment
>>>> > was
>>>> > > missing when our mosques were being used to drive these people out.
>>>> None
>>>> > of
>>>> > > us said this is wrong and the Kashmiri Pandits had every right to
>>>> > continue
>>>> > > living in the valley. We were mute spectators either mute in
>>>> agreement or
>>>> > > mute in abject fear, but mute none the less," he writes.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > While this is the first time a mainstream Kashmiri politician has
>>>> spoken
>>>> > so
>>>> > > strongly on the plight of these Kashmiri Pandits, Omar's sentiments
>>>> will
>>>> > > not
>>>> > > make the Kashmiri Pandits forget the feeling of being refugees in
>>>> their
>>>> > own
>>>> > > country, just yet.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Rashneek Kher
>>>> > > http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Partha Dasgupta
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>  Rashneek Kher
>>> http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Partha Dasgupta
>> +919811047132
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rashneek Kher
> http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
>



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