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[Kirdar]

Dear Aarti
Thanks for your reply. Its fine if you don't want to make any pledge
or submission - I know you have not taken any thekka to support or not
support anyone. But maybe you could try to ignore some the mails. I
think ignoring some mails will work best.

What I am suggesting on Sarai list (with no pretensions on my part) is
to declare a ceasefire of sorts, where we stop (for the time being)
making personal attacks, and come down for negotiations. Let us try
it.

So, I HEREBY DECLARE AN INDEFINITE CEASEFIRE on all personal attacks
(including JNU/non-JNU jokes), and come to the point. If you have to
make a personal attack then send a personal mail, or call up the
person, or visit his/her house. Don't make personal attacks on the
list, please.

Kirdar



On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Aarti Sethi <aarti.sethi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Kirdar,
>
> With all due respect, I honestly have nothing to prove to anybody
> least all of all to the swarms of suffering KPs that populate this
> list. I do not see why i should denounce this or that, make statements
> in favour of this or that. I have been called terrorist-sympathizer
> and much worse on this list, it bothers me not in the least. I am not
> a public person, I do not hold public office, I am not a leader of any
> movement, no one's life or work depends on me. I have therefore not
> taken any thekka to pledge my support for the cause of the day. I
> write about what I feel like and respond to what I feel like.
>
> Unlike Aditya and Pawan who seem to suffer from a form of what could
> be called "social Tourette's syndrome" (look it up kids), and need
> constant and ever-increasing affirmation of their worth by thrusting
> their wounded battered selves into our weary consciousnesses, I have
> no such insecurities and fantasies.
>
> I appreciate your attempting to resolve this, but you will soon
> realise that the wounds on poor Aditya and Pawan are about the size of
> a meteor's crater which mere human intervention can never hope to
> fill. We would need Lord Krishna himself to chuck an inverted
> Govardhan in as band-aid.
>
> Good luck in your ministering efforts regardless.
>
> best
> Aarti
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Kirdar <kirdarsingh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Pawan, since I am making an effort to bring some reconciliation
>> between differing viewpoints, I am taking a liberty to forward your
>> private mail to the list.
>>
>> Dear Shuddha, Aarti, Shivam etc. I agree with whatever you folks say,
>> but I think what is needed here is a simple submission that you
>> denounce "Muslim" militancy in Kashmir. It won't cost much. I know you
>> do denounce it obviously, but you are not saying it in so many words
>> because the situation is much more complicated - people on both sides
>> have been affected equally badly - Kashmiri Pundits are not the only
>> victimized people on earth. But their persistent irritation on this
>> list has left such bad taste in your mouth that you don't feel upto
>> helping their cause any way.
>>
>> But I request all of you to stop doubting each other's intentions, and
>> come down to discussing practical ways of resolving our issues. I have
>> decided to judge each day what sort of emails you folks forward (even
>> news items such as "Islamic justice" and so on) to see whether you are
>> interested in genuine resolution of issues or simply mud-slinging. Let
>> the readers of this list judge what is your purpose in life.
>>
>> Jai myself/thyself
>>
>> Kirdar
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> kirdar,
>>>
>>> when I having been so deeply involved in kashmir issue try to prove a
>>> point u necessarily don't need to agree with me,for various reasons .
>>>
>>> shuddha is a character whom only victims of kashmir issue and islamic
>>> terrorism can identify..
>>>
>>> till date this loose canon has not written a word against evident
>>> islamic terrorism terrorism .
>>>
>>> I know where he is coming from and trust he wud repent if god forbid
>>> he suffers because  of it.
>>>
>>> Pawan durani
>>> jai maharashtra jai hind jai panun kashmir issue
>>>
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