[Reader-list] Condemn the violence

inder salim indersalim at gmail.com
Thu Nov 6 22:13:29 IST 2008 

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:11 PM, inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Inder Salim
>
>  Since Pragya Singh's and ABVP's links are well  known , I suggest you
    to keep low profile, unless you are too crazy, or, you are a paid agent ?
>
> with love
> inder salim
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Javed <javedmasoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In the DU meeting, the ABVP goons spat on the face of SAR Geelani. How
>> atrocious.
>>
>> I remember somebody on this list a few days ago said: "I don't oppose
>> your views, I spit on it".
>>
>> Sounds so similar.
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, I agree with Shuddha. Any kind of violence must me condemned.
>>>
>>> So similar to Kashmiris who also indulge in violence by killing people or
>>> damaging public and Govt property.All that these kashmiris have is muscle
>>> power, Gun power , throat power,meaningless and empty slogans, and the
>>> patronage of corrupted and compliant authorities , pseudo secularists and
>>> the paid up writers
>>>
>>> Pawan
>>> Jai Andhra ! Jai Hind
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/6/08, Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all, dear hany babu,
>>>>
>>>> I am shocked to read this note. Clearly the ABVP and its allies on
>>>> the campuses of our universities have become nothing short of
>>>> criminal gangs that seek to impose their writ through acts of violent
>>>> intimidation. No words are strong enough to condemn the incident that
>>>> has been reported below. It only goes to show that the 'culture' of
>>>> 'cultural nationalists' of the ABVP variety is synonymous with plain
>>>> thuggery. That the concerned university authorities (the pro-vice
>>>> chancellor and the proctor) acted in a partisan manner and asked for
>>>> this meeting (for which prior permission had been sought and granted)
>>>> to be closed is deeply regrettable. They have profoundly compromised
>>>> their integrity and the dignity of their position by the manner in
>>>> which they have conducted themselves.
>>>>
>>>> In any given public meeting, the public is invited to attend, and has
>>>> the right to ask questions and make critical comments if necessary.
>>>> That the ABVP chose not to do this, but to attack and disrupt the
>>>> meeting, and insult and harm the speakers, says all we need to know
>>>> about their capacity to enter and engage into a debate. They have
>>>> nothing to say. They have no facts, no arguments, no reasons, no
>>>> evidence. All that they have is muscle power, throat power,
>>>> meaningless and empty slogans, and the patronage of corrupted and
>>>> compliant authorities and the police.
>>>>
>>>> This should be seen, not as a sign of their strength, but of their
>>>> pathetic weakness. They will not prevail.
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>>
>>>> Shuddha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06-Nov-08, at 6:14 PM, hany babu wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > *Press Note*
>>>> >
>>>> > *University Community, Delhi University*
>>>> >
>>>> > *6th November 2008*
>>>> >
>>>> > *Condemn the vandalism of ABVP and RSS in Delhi University!*
>>>> >
>>>> > *Defend the freedom of speech and our democratic rights!*
>>>> >
>>>> > Dear media persons and journalists,
>>>> >
>>>> > * *
>>>> >
>>>> > We wish to bring to your notice the latest incident of vandalism by
>>>> > Akhil
>>>> > Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad goons (ABVP, student wing of the RSS)
>>>> > in Delhi
>>>> > University, in which members of the press community were also made
>>>> > victims.
>>>> >
>>>> > The University Community, an independent group of students and
>>>> > teachers of
>>>> > Delhi University, had organised a meeting on "*Communalism, Fascism
>>>> > and
>>>> > Democracy: Rhetoric and Reality*" on 6th November 2008 at Room No.
>>>> > 22 Arts
>>>> > Faculty. It did not come as a surprise that right-wing forces would be
>>>> > opposed to any meaningful discussion on these issues.
>>>> >
>>>> > As the Chair of the meeting, SAR Geelani (lecturer at Zakir Husain
>>>> > College,
>>>> > University of Delhi), came inside the room and took his seat, one
>>>> > of the
>>>> > ABVP members came and *spat on his face twice*. It was then that we
>>>> > realised
>>>> >
>>>> > that this was a planned attempt to disrupt the public meeting –
>>>> > ABVP goondas
>>>> >
>>>> > were sitting inside the room and they rose to hurl abuses at the
>>>> > participants and physically attack them. DUSU President Nupur
>>>> > Sharma (of
>>>> > ABVP) entered the room and declared that SAR Geelani, a lecturer of
>>>> > this
>>>> > University, could not speak in the University! This, when we had
>>>> > taken due
>>>> > permission from the University authorities to conduct the meeting.
>>>> >
>>>> > The ABVP goons attacked the women students and participants, broke the
>>>> > microphone and hurled chairs. They also manhandled media persons
>>>> > who were
>>>> > covering the meeting. Two journalists from Tehelka and Mail Today,
>>>> > who were
>>>> > speakers at the meeting, were threatened by ABVP. The mother of one
>>>> > of the
>>>> > media persons who was present had to leave the venue because she was
>>>> > terrorised by the goons. At this point, the Pro-Vice Chancellor and
>>>> > the
>>>> > Proctor called one of the organisers and told him *that the meeting
>>>> > could
>>>> > not go on because it was creating a 'law and order' problem. *Who
>>>> > did the
>>>> > University administration side with? ABVP.
>>>> >
>>>> > It was the courage and fortitude of the audience who insisted on
>>>> > continuing
>>>> > the meeting. The ABVP goons were pushed out of the room and the
>>>> > meeting
>>>> > continued behind closed doors. ABVP did not stop there. *In the
>>>> > presence of
>>>> > a large contingent of Delhi Police, and we dare say with their
>>>> > permission,
>>>> > they threw stones at the room, broke all the window panes, tried to
>>>> > break
>>>> > the doors and continued abusing – *Goli maaro saalon ko, Pakistan
>>>> > Murdabad,
>>>> > Vande Mataram – were some of the better ones*. SAR Geelani, in
>>>> > particular
>>>> > was targeted. *However, they could not scare us and stop the
>>>> > meeting from
>>>> > concluding successfully.
>>>> >
>>>> > We wish to bring to your notice that this is not the first effort
>>>> > of ABVP
>>>> > *to
>>>> > snatch all the democratic space available to us in the University*.
>>>> > Last
>>>> > year, the faculty members and students of the History Department were
>>>> > targeted only because of a text in their syllabus. The same goons
>>>> > who once
>>>> > attacked our right to study history texts today attacked our right
>>>> > to hold
>>>> > meetings and discussions.
>>>> >
>>>> > During a meeting on communalism and fascism, we were witness to the
>>>> > threat
>>>> > and danger posed by these communal and fascist forces to the
>>>> > secular and
>>>> > democratic fabric of our country. The parent organisation of ABVP,
>>>> > and the
>>>> > politics espoused by them, is responsible for the widespread attack on
>>>> > minorities across the country. It is they who were responsible for the
>>>> > genocide in Gujarat and for spreading the politics of hate and
>>>> > fear. If we
>>>> > remain silent today, *we will lose whatever little space that is
>>>> > left to us
>>>> > in the University*. Do we need to take permission from ABVP to hold a
>>>> > meeting in the University? Who does the University administration
>>>> > and Delhi
>>>> > Police support in the fight against fascism?
>>>> >
>>>> > *We call upon the entire University community to protest against this
>>>> > assault on academic freedom and democratic rights. In protest of
>>>> > today's
>>>> > events, we are organising a protest march tomorrow at the
>>>> > University, at
>>>> > 11:00 a.m. at Vivekananda statue, Arts Faculty. We demand*
>>>> >
>>>> > *1.       **The University administration should lodge a FIR
>>>> > against ABVP
>>>> > members, especially persons like Nupur Sharma, Vikas Dahiya, Desh
>>>> > Ratan,
>>>> > Sonu Singh and Ashutosh.*
>>>> >
>>>> > *2.       **Time-bound enquiry into this act of vandalism and
>>>> > goondaism and
>>>> > action against the people found guilty. *
>>>> >
>>>> > *3.       **To give us assurance that future public meetings on
>>>> > similar
>>>> > issues will not be disrupted by these goons. *
>>>> >
>>>> > University Community
>>>> >
>>>> > *Contact Persons: Umar Khalid 9873961701, Harsh Bora 9811855618,
>>>> > universitycommun...<http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?hl=en-
>>>> > GB&_done=/group/greenyouth/browse_thread/thread/29a70db7becff1de%
>>>> > 3Fhl%3Den-GB&msg=bd0acd545ae5e08f>
>>>> > @gmail.com*
>>>> > --
>>>> > MD. MAHTAB ALAM
>>>> > mdmahtaba...<http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?hl=en-GB&_done=/
>>>> > group/greenyouth/browse_thread/thread/29a70db7becff1de%3Fhl%3Den-
>>>> > GB&msg=bd0acd545ae5e08f>
>>>> > @gmail.com
>>>> > Phone:+91-9811209345
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>>>> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
>>>> The Sarai Programme at CSDS
>>>> Raqs Media Collective
>>>> shuddha at sarai.net
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