[Reader-list] Condemn the violence

Aditya Raj Kaul kauladityaraj at gmail.com
Thu Nov 6 22:44:44 IST 2008 

What proof do you have Javed, that they were ABVP people ?

ABVP protest started much after this incident took place.

Check your facts before opening your big mouth. Why not question Geelani's
presence ?

P.S. - The entire country anyway spits at people like Geelani.

Aditya Raj Kaul

On 11/6/08, Javed <javedmasoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In the DU meeting, the ABVP goons spat on the face of SAR Geelani. How
> atrocious.
>
> I remember somebody on this list a few days ago said: "I don't oppose
> your views, I spit on it".
>
> Sounds so similar.
>
>
> J
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Yes, I agree with Shuddha. Any kind of violence must me condemned.
> >
> > So similar to Kashmiris who also indulge in violence by killing people or
> > damaging public and Govt property.All that these kashmiris have is muscle
> > power, Gun power , throat power,meaningless and empty slogans, and the
> > patronage of corrupted and compliant authorities , pseudo secularists and
> > the paid up writers
> >
> > Pawan
> > Jai Andhra ! Jai Hind
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/6/08, Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear all, dear hany babu,
> >>
> >> I am shocked to read this note. Clearly the ABVP and its allies on
> >> the campuses of our universities have become nothing short of
> >> criminal gangs that seek to impose their writ through acts of violent
> >> intimidation. No words are strong enough to condemn the incident that
> >> has been reported below. It only goes to show that the 'culture' of
> >> 'cultural nationalists' of the ABVP variety is synonymous with plain
> >> thuggery. That the concerned university authorities (the pro-vice
> >> chancellor and the proctor) acted in a partisan manner and asked for
> >> this meeting (for which prior permission had been sought and granted)
> >> to be closed is deeply regrettable. They have profoundly compromised
> >> their integrity and the dignity of their position by the manner in
> >> which they have conducted themselves.
> >>
> >> In any given public meeting, the public is invited to attend, and has
> >> the right to ask questions and make critical comments if necessary.
> >> That the ABVP chose not to do this, but to attack and disrupt the
> >> meeting, and insult and harm the speakers, says all we need to know
> >> about their capacity to enter and engage into a debate. They have
> >> nothing to say. They have no facts, no arguments, no reasons, no
> >> evidence. All that they have is muscle power, throat power,
> >> meaningless and empty slogans, and the patronage of corrupted and
> >> compliant authorities and the police.
> >>
> >> This should be seen, not as a sign of their strength, but of their
> >> pathetic weakness. They will not prevail.
> >>
> >> best
> >>
> >> Shuddha
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06-Nov-08, at 6:14 PM, hany babu wrote:
> >>
> >> > *Press Note*
> >> >
> >> > *University Community, Delhi University*
> >> >
> >> > *6th November 2008*
> >> >
> >> > *Condemn the vandalism of ABVP and RSS in Delhi University!*
> >> >
> >> > *Defend the freedom of speech and our democratic rights!*
> >> >
> >> > Dear media persons and journalists,
> >> >
> >> > * *
> >> >
> >> > We wish to bring to your notice the latest incident of vandalism by
> >> > Akhil
> >> > Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad goons (ABVP, student wing of the RSS)
> >> > in Delhi
> >> > University, in which members of the press community were also made
> >> > victims.
> >> >
> >> > The University Community, an independent group of students and
> >> > teachers of
> >> > Delhi University, had organised a meeting on "*Communalism, Fascism
> >> > and
> >> > Democracy: Rhetoric and Reality*" on 6th November 2008 at Room No.
> >> > 22 Arts
> >> > Faculty. It did not come as a surprise that right-wing forces would be
> >> > opposed to any meaningful discussion on these issues.
> >> >
> >> > As the Chair of the meeting, SAR Geelani (lecturer at Zakir Husain
> >> > College,
> >> > University of Delhi), came inside the room and took his seat, one
> >> > of the
> >> > ABVP members came and *spat on his face twice*. It was then that we
> >> > realised
> >> >
> >> > that this was a planned attempt to disrupt the public meeting –
> >> > ABVP goondas
> >> >
> >> > were sitting inside the room and they rose to hurl abuses at the
> >> > participants and physically attack them. DUSU President Nupur
> >> > Sharma (of
> >> > ABVP) entered the room and declared that SAR Geelani, a lecturer of
> >> > this
> >> > University, could not speak in the University! This, when we had
> >> > taken due
> >> > permission from the University authorities to conduct the meeting.
> >> >
> >> > The ABVP goons attacked the women students and participants, broke the
> >> > microphone and hurled chairs. They also manhandled media persons
> >> > who were
> >> > covering the meeting. Two journalists from Tehelka and Mail Today,
> >> > who were
> >> > speakers at the meeting, were threatened by ABVP. The mother of one
> >> > of the
> >> > media persons who was present had to leave the venue because she was
> >> > terrorised by the goons. At this point, the Pro-Vice Chancellor and
> >> > the
> >> > Proctor called one of the organisers and told him *that the meeting
> >> > could
> >> > not go on because it was creating a 'law and order' problem. *Who
> >> > did the
> >> > University administration side with? ABVP.
> >> >
> >> > It was the courage and fortitude of the audience who insisted on
> >> > continuing
> >> > the meeting. The ABVP goons were pushed out of the room and the
> >> > meeting
> >> > continued behind closed doors. ABVP did not stop there. *In the
> >> > presence of
> >> > a large contingent of Delhi Police, and we dare say with their
> >> > permission,
> >> > they threw stones at the room, broke all the window panes, tried to
> >> > break
> >> > the doors and continued abusing – *Goli maaro saalon ko, Pakistan
> >> > Murdabad,
> >> > Vande Mataram – were some of the better ones*. SAR Geelani, in
> >> > particular
> >> > was targeted. *However, they could not scare us and stop the
> >> > meeting from
> >> > concluding successfully.
> >> >
> >> > We wish to bring to your notice that this is not the first effort
> >> > of ABVP
> >> > *to
> >> > snatch all the democratic space available to us in the University*.
> >> > Last
> >> > year, the faculty members and students of the History Department were
> >> > targeted only because of a text in their syllabus. The same goons
> >> > who once
> >> > attacked our right to study history texts today attacked our right
> >> > to hold
> >> > meetings and discussions.
> >> >
> >> > During a meeting on communalism and fascism, we were witness to the
> >> > threat
> >> > and danger posed by these communal and fascist forces to the
> >> > secular and
> >> > democratic fabric of our country. The parent organisation of ABVP,
> >> > and the
> >> > politics espoused by them, is responsible for the widespread attack on
> >> > minorities across the country. It is they who were responsible for the
> >> > genocide in Gujarat and for spreading the politics of hate and
> >> > fear. If we
> >> > remain silent today, *we will lose whatever little space that is
> >> > left to us
> >> > in the University*. Do we need to take permission from ABVP to hold a
> >> > meeting in the University? Who does the University administration
> >> > and Delhi
> >> > Police support in the fight against fascism?
> >> >
> >> > *We call upon the entire University community to protest against this
> >> > assault on academic freedom and democratic rights. In protest of
> >> > today's
> >> > events, we are organising a protest march tomorrow at the
> >> > University, at
> >> > 11:00 a.m. at Vivekananda statue, Arts Faculty. We demand*
> >> >
> >> > *1.       **The University administration should lodge a FIR
> >> > against ABVP
> >> > members, especially persons like Nupur Sharma, Vikas Dahiya, Desh
> >> > Ratan,
> >> > Sonu Singh and Ashutosh.*
> >> >
> >> > *2.       **Time-bound enquiry into this act of vandalism and
> >> > goondaism and
> >> > action against the people found guilty. *
> >> >
> >> > *3.       **To give us assurance that future public meetings on
> >> > similar
> >> > issues will not be disrupted by these goons. *
> >> >
> >> > University Community
> >> >
> >> > *Contact Persons: Umar Khalid 9873961701, Harsh Bora 9811855618,
> >> > universitycommun...<http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?hl=en-
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> >> > 3Fhl%3Den-GB&msg=bd0acd545ae5e08f>
> >> > @gmail.com*
> >> > --
> >> > MD. MAHTAB ALAM
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> >> > @gmail.com
> >> > Phone:+91-9811209345
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> >> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
> >> The Sarai Programme at CSDS
> >> Raqs Media Collective
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> >>
> >>
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