[Reader-list] Fwd: About Accusations on this List

[joe chris]

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From: joe chris <joechrismyles at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] About Accusations on this List
To: Tapas Ray <tapasrayx at gmail.com>


Dear Ashima Sood,
you have superbly summed up the views of a majority of the committed readers
with regard to the writings of Mr. Durrani and Mr. Kaul. Thanks a lot.

  On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Tapas Ray <tapasrayx at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ashima,
>
> You have offered a very interesting perspective, and I too have been
> inclined to think that way at times. But, as I have explained in the
> other message (addressed to Monica) I have posted a minute ago, the time
> has probably come to set these considerations aside.
>
> Just my two-bit.
>
> Tapas
>
>
> Ashima Sood wrote:
> > Kirdar, Danish, Inder Salim,  Ravikant, Sabitha and other fellow list
> members,
> >
> > As a committed reader of reader-list and someone who regularly has her
> > email inbox flooded by Messrs Aditya Raj Kaul, Pawan Durani and
> > company, I hear you. But may I request we not dignify the tantrums of
> > this group with a ban?
> >
> > Recently, Mr Aditya Raj Kaul wrote (apologies to Shuddha for
> reproducing):
> >
> > "This is simply Dumbocracy rule here in SARAI. Shuddha being the
> > originator. His mails are filled with trash, he has bad 'history' and
> > 'Civics'."
> >
> > To me, all these gratuitous insults and juvenile coinages suggest this
> > writer is a brat - very spoiled, very petulant and very cornered .
> > From where I stand, it's clear that Shuddha, Shivam, Aarti, Prakash,
> > (and many others I could not name without going on a couple of
> > paragraphs) do a very fine (and patient) job of countering the
> > half-baked facts and opinions spewed by Mr. Aditya Kaul and Mr Durani.
> > Doesn't surprise me the only response left to these gentlemen is
> > sputtering and spitting. With their elegantly argued missives on
> > public record, seriously, are they defaming anyone more than
> > themselves?
> >
> > My concern is that if we do banish them to their side of the fence -
> > militarybharat.com or hindurashtra.com or kashmironlyforpandits.com -
> > they will continue without challenge. On this list,  they are called
> > to account, and exposed for what they are. Over time, we can be sure
> > they lose a fraction more of the fence-sitter vote.
> >
> > Despite the bother,  I suggest those of us not directly in the line of
> > fire make judicious use of the delete button. Even better, drown  out
> > the bad talk with good talk. Or maybe think of this as participant
> > observation - we have enacted here a fascinating ethnography of thug
> > thinking. I would love to see a meditation on the sputter and spit
> > among  the "stammer, mumble, sweat, scrawl, and tic" and other forms
> > of arrested speech and gesture that Raqs examined on the e-flux
> > journal (http://e-flux.com/journal/view/14) - only here it is the
> > interrogator in the uncomfortable position of being interrogated.
> >
> > At stake here are two visions of public space. We know what Mr. Aditya
> > Raj Kaul would do. He has defended  the "protest" - read
> > bully-enforced censorship - against SAR Geelani. Let's not give him
> > the satisfaction of following in his path.
> >
> > Peace and deference to the moderator's decision,
> >
> > Ashima
> >
> >
> >
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