[Reader-list] ‘Terrorists’ died of gunshot wounds

TaraPrakash taraprakash at gmail.com
Thu Oct 2 00:05:34 IST 2008


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pawan Durani" <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
To: "Shivam Vij शिवम् विज्" <mail at shivamvij.com>
Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list]‘Terrorists’ died of gunshot wounds


> Dear Shivam Vij Ji,
> Eid Mubarak
>
> Since you seem to be interested in 'terrorism' and 'encounters', i would 
> you
> to understand that even in self defense where the opponent is firing, the
> shootings are not aimed at legs.
>
> I have seen many shootings and many encounters . However if you have been
> told a different story by your employers or terrorist friends like Yasin
> Malik, please do correct yourself.
>
> When someone aims a gun at you , you fire anywhere in self defense. And
> thats a human psychology.
>
> Regards
>
> Pawan Durani
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् 
> <mail at shivamvij.com>wrote:
>
>> Oh sorry! But it does not, then, analyse that if they were shot in the
>> head and chest, it was not an encounter in which the criminal with a
>> gun would be shot in the leg in self-defence.
>> best
>> shivam
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > At times, these days people tend to get a verbal diarrhea of commenting
>> on
>> > each post without reading it at length and clarity. Its very common.
>> >
>> > Kindly read carefully. Hope the story is still interesting.
>> >
>> > Love
>> > Aditya Raj Kaul
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/1/08, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Interesting that this story does not mention that the 'terrorists'
>> >> were shot in the head.
>> >> best
>> >> shivam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul <
>> kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > 'Terrorists' died of gunshot wounds
>> >> > Rhythma Kaul
>> >> >
>> >> > The Hindustan Times
>> >> >
>> >> > New Delhi, September 30, 2008
>> >> >
>> >> > "Atif Ameen and Mohammad Sajid, the alleged terrorists who were 
>> >> > killed
>> in
>> >> > the encounter at Batla House on September 19, died specifically of
>> >> fire-arm
>> >> > injuries," said one of the forensic experts who did the autopsy at 
>> >> > Jai
>> >> > Prakash Narayan Apex Trauma Centre at All India Institute of Medical
>> >> > Sciences (AIIMS).
>> >> >
>> >> > "I can say with 100 per cent assurance that both the men weren't
>> engaged
>> >> in
>> >> > any scuffle before their death. There were no scuffle marks, but 
>> >> > only
>> >> bullet
>> >> > wounds on their bodies," he said.
>> >> >
>> >> > Physiological evidence indicated Atif and Sajid were both in their
>> early
>> >> > 20s, with Sajid being slightly younger.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since there was no age-related query from the police, it has not 
>> >> > been
>> >> > revealed in the autopsy report. "Still, we have collected samples, 
>> >> > and
>> if
>> >> > the police ask us in future to ascertain their age, we can do it,"
>> said
>> >> the
>> >> > doctor.
>> >> >
>> >> > During the autopsy, bullets were found lodged inside the bodies of
>> both
>> >> Atif
>> >> > and Sajid. Atif's body had a total of 21 injuries spread across the
>> torso
>> >> > and thighs.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sajid's body had 13 injury marks, with most of the wounds located on
>> his
>> >> > head and chest.
>> >> >
>> >> > One mark was on his right leg, which, the doctors say, could have 
>> >> > been
>> >> made
>> >> > when a bullet grazed past his leg.
>> >> >
>> >> > When asked how many bullets were lodged inside the bodies, the 
>> >> > doctor
>> >> said
>> >> > that it was impossible to come up with a number.
>> >> >
>> >> > "These days, the weapons have become very sophisticated. We get
>> frangible
>> >> > bullets that explode inside the target, with one bullet making
>> multiple
>> >> > wounds. We can tell you how many wounds were made by bullet 
>> >> > injuries.
>> How
>> >> > many bullets were fired is for the ballistic experts to correlate 
>> >> > and
>> >> > determine," he said.
>> >> >
>> >> > The three-member forensic team worked overtime to submit the report
>> >> within
>> >> > three days of the bodies being handed over to it on September 22.
>> >> >
>> >> > The autopsy procedure unlike that for Inspector M.C. Sharma, who was
>> also
>> >> > killed in the encounter was not done in-camera. "That's because the
>> >> police
>> >> > didn't place any such request before us," said the doctor.
>> >> >
>> >> > As for making the report public, the doctor said, "No one can have
>> access
>> >> to
>> >> > the autopsy report within 90 days, not even the family."
>> >> >
>> >> > Inspector Sharma's autopsy report was completed late on the night of
>> >> > September 26 but has still not been handed over to his family.
>> >>
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