[Reader-list] HOW SECULAR IS INDIA TODAY?

[Aarti Sethi]

oh be quiet chanchal! We thought we had got some much needed respite from
your lunatic rants but it seems the honeymoon period is over and once again
the pall of a bad marriage - the daily energy-sapping constant carping-
descends on the reader-list. Spare us. Spare us. Spare us. Spare us. Why
don't you go play with nice Prabhakar Singh wherever he is?...

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:04 AM, chanchal malviya <
chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com> wrote:

> That is true.. you will not die in riots...
> Because before the sword comes to your throat, you will accept Islam...
>
> Only they will be hit who dare to talk about Hindutva (Communal)... rest
> all is secular..
>
> We are proud of what we are originally... the hindus... this land of
> Sanatan Dharma from eternity don't require people like you who believe in
> more than one fathers (Hindutva is our only father).. rest are Uncles.. we
> respect them.. but do not want them to hit our father...
>
> And no one is answering... if Secularism is your say... why don't you
> conver to Islam once and for all... At least we will be clear that we are
> having clear opposition... not confused minds..
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tapas Ray <tapasrayx at gmail.com>
> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:54:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] HOW SECULAR IS INDIA TODAY?
>
> Britta,
>
> Do not despair. You, I, and others who do not have to die in riots ...
> at least that is how things have been for me so far, but who knows ...
> can look at the lighter side. How desperate the writers of these posts
> sound, going by their tone. I, and probably some others, have simply
> filtered out some of these folks. But I have kept a few gushers keep
> ...ing (choose your body-function verb) into my mailbox to mark their
> territory, so as to amuse myself with the sight, rather perversely.
> When I decide I have had enough, I will shut out these too.
>
> They know they can never win an argument, because they speak a
> completely different language, which the rest of the members have no
> intention of speaking. So why do they keep repeating these things ad
> nauseum? I suspect their intention is not only to hijack this list as
> you mention but also to *crash the server* if they can't. I think the
> time will come when they will have to be shown the door so that the
> list is not physically wrecked.
>
> Till then, hold your nose and try to laugh.
>
> Tapas
>
>
> 2008/10/16 Britta Ohm <ohm at zedat.fu-berlin.de>:
> > I'm so so sick of this debate and of witnessing how this list has been
> > hijacked and undermined by voices who bespeak how deeply the paradigms
> > of Hindutva - that are by now means simple but painstakingly flexible
> > - have become entrenched in Indian society. And by saying this I
> > already know the - superficially varied - reactions that will refuse
> > any responsibility, will advise me, under the pretext of 'not
> > differentiating' and with the accusation of communalising, to go to
> > Pakistan, to Rome, to consider the plight of the Kashmiri pundits, the
> > injustice done to the 'majority community' and - to leave this list.
> > Why don't I do it? After hope, is there really only masochism,
> > subservience and silent suffering?
> > Britta
> >
> >
> > Am 16.10.2008 um 19:20 schrieb chanchal malviya:
> >
> >> India is secular:
> >> 1. Muslims have personal law, but there is no Hindu personal law
> >> 2. Christians have rights to convert the Hindus, but Hindus do not
> >> have that.
> >> 3. Muslims get subsidy, Hindus pay subsidy
> >> 4. Hindus are in lakhs in other countries and they are not engaged
> >> either in conversion, but the same can be applied on them in their
> >> own motherland
> >> 5. Hindus can talk in support of Islam and Christianity to be
> >> secular, but talking about Hinduism is communal
> >>
> >> Not to say the last words..
> >> If all Religions are equal, why don't you convert to Islam or
> >> Christianity once for all. The problem will end. The problem lies
> >> because we chose to remain Hindu.
> >>
> >>
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