[Reader-list] The updated list of killings by the firing ofarmedforces

[radhikarajen at vsnl.net]

Shuudha, angry crowds being encouraged to throw stones is indeed very peaceful protest.? We did see the "crowds " in Srinagar piling up stones well in advance, these crowds were paid crowds of separatists, but stones were used by all the peaceful protesters. !

Regards.

----- Original Message -----
From: Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net>
Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:55 am
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] The updated list of killings by the firing ofarmedforces
To: radhikarajen at vsnl.net
Cc: khurramparvez at yahoo.com, SARAI <reader-list at sarai.net>

> Dear Radhika,
> 
> Thank you for your observations on Khurram's posting.
> 
> Well, in this case some  "protesters who claim to be peaceful,  
> holding sticks, guns and resort to arson and riot" were 
> "garlanded."  
> I am referring to the ones in Jammu. You will recall, that not a  
> single policeman or soldier or paramilitary personnel were killed 
> in  
> Kashmir. But two policemen did die in Jammu, and some truck 
> drivers  
> assaulted by the 'peaceful' protestors in Jammu also succmbed, I  
> suppose in your opinion, "peacefully"  from their injuries. Gujjar 
> 
> huts were burnt in acts of "peaceful" arson. The crowds in Kashmir 
> 
> who were fired upon, 50 of whom were killed at the last count, did 
> 
> not bear weapons. We all saw the television pictures. They threw  
> stones, like angry crowds do everywhere in the world. But they did 
> 
> not kill policemen.
> 
> The government did not garland these protestors, it clamped  
> indefinite curfews and shot at them to kill. One the other hand it 
> 
> did garland the protestors on the other side of the Banihal pass. 
> it  
> held some leaders under the Public Safety Act, and then released  
> them. It counducted 'negotiations' with the leaders of the 
> peaceful  
> protests in Jammu and garlanded them with a sham 'accord'. All 
> these  
> prove that if you happen to belong to the right place, sport the  
> right kind of name, then even if your 'peaceful' protest turns  
> occasionally violent, you can still be 'garlanded' as you (in this 
> 
> case) rightly point out.
> 
> After all, we live in the country whose government called its 
> nuclear  
> weapons tests in 1974, 'peaceful implosions'.
> 
> In the novel, '1984' George Orwell, whom I have referred to in an  
> earlier posting, wrote about how in the language perfected by   
> fictional regime that he was decribing, (newspeak) 'PEACE' was 'WAR'.
> 
> are you not indulging in a little modest 'newspeak' Radhika, 
> surely,  
> you can do better than that?
> 
> warm regards
> 
> Shuddha
> 
> On 18-Sep-08, at 1:46 PM, radhikarajen at vsnl.net wrote:
> Khurram,
> 
>  your post makes me wonder, whether the protesters who claim to 
> be  
> peaceful, holding sticks, guns and resort to arson and riot should 
> be  
> garlanded. ?
> 
> 
> 
>