[Reader-list] HARAM

Mon Sep 29 16:13:33 IST 2008

As the Reader-list Administrator, I will now use my prerogative to  
remove Radhika Rajen from the list.

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On 29-Sep-08, at 4:07 PM, radhikarajen at vsnl.net wrote:

> Aarti,
>
>  if you enjoy the vague comments of Inderji, like the rioters  
> getting upset because of something written about "pandavas" it is  
> upto you. Please read the exchange of our thoughts carefully before  
> jumping to protect Inderji with lots of love.Orissa happened  
> because a 80 year old revered person along with aged persons was  
> shot dead, not because of vague comments. Further Inderji in his  
> glib posts with occassional ghalib quotes gets away with sedition,  
> but being apologists to secularism, we always tolerate. When he  
> says --"what is sacred to you, need not be sacred for him," the  
> secular credentials stand totally exposed.
>
>  For me, what is sacred for him, may not be sacred, but i will not  
> ridicule that feel of sacredness. That is tolerent human being in  
> me. But he not only prefers to ridicule and Aarti for her love is  
> prepared to chastise others to be tolerent of his posts which at  
> times are games of dividing the citizens on yardstick of caste and  
> faith, support to separatists tinged with ghalib's quoates.?
>
>  So, just to get him a feel of what it means to hurt others of the  
> social ills the two incidents are given, not that in other  
> communities the events of such magbitude do not happen, but priests  
> in our society have no right of fathwas.
>
>    If you like the circumsized cock it is your choice, but it does  
> not give right to you to keep mum when that person ridicules what  
> you consider as good and sacred. Tolerence does not mean that Inder  
> can ridicule everything that is sacred for hindu to please his  
> bosses in power. When he talks of caste discrimination, he seems to  
> overlook the ills in other faiths and communities and faiths, with  
> humans in every community, the faults are there in all the faiths.  
> Let us try to figure out at reforms from our homes first, as  
> charity begins at home, but it does not give any moral high for a  
> person like Inder salim to talk up above from clouds.! It is for  
> this reason, that i gave the incidents for him to reflect on the  
> role of fathwas, let him respond, if he wants a decent debate, but  
> that does not mean we should take his intolerence in our strides.?
>
> Regards.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aarti Sethi <aarti.sethi at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] HARAM
> To: radhikarajen at vsnl.net
> Cc: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>, reader-list at sarai.net
>
>> radhika again you talk in unsubstantiated and vague generalities
>> which are
>> neither here nor there and only betray your prejudice. Do you wish
>> me to
>> quote incidents of the patriarchy inherent in Hindu society? I
>> assure you I
>> can at great length. Really this is getting us nowhere.
>>
>> regs
>> A
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:10 PM, <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
>>
>>> With more love,
>>>      Inderji,
>>>    a visual which showed the father in law defending having sex
>> with his
>>> daughter in law, fit to be his daughter did not make me smile,
>> felt sad,
>>> even saddened  by the fathwa that followed the incident
>>>      .A girl of hardly thirteen years married off to a "shaikh"
>> of 67 years
>>> of age, in Hyderabad, weeping at the airport before the flight
>> took off,made
>>> me sad, not laugh as the nikah was legal, meher was good.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:38 pm
>>> Subject: [Reader-list] HARAM
>>> To: reader-list at sarai.net
>>>
>>>> the one word comment  HARAM ( illegitimate ) on the following
>> you tube
>>>> Nizamuddin no. at Ghalib's Mazar  ( a fragment of complete
>> song )
>>>> made me smile,  unlike those who start rioting ( in Orirsa ) after
>>>> reading something about Pandav Putras and some other deities
>> similar> > to them in origin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNaFxUPaDg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> just click the above
>>>> love
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> http://indersalim.livejournal.com
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