[Reader-list] HARAM

[Aditya Raj Kaul]

Kindly sight your reasons for such an extreme step. Why only Radhika, you
don't see anything wrong with Inder Salim ?

If you need to apply law, be equal with all. Or, else just leave it as it
is....

Thanks
Aditya Raj Kaul

On 9/29/08, Monica Narula <monica at sarai.net> wrote:
>
> As the Reader-list Administrator, I will now use my prerogative to
> remove Radhika Rajen from the list.
>
>
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> On 29-Sep-08, at 4:07 PM, radhikarajen at vsnl.net wrote:
>
> > Aarti,
> >
> >  if you enjoy the vague comments of Inderji, like the rioters
> > getting upset because of something written about "pandavas" it is
> > upto you. Please read the exchange of our thoughts carefully before
> > jumping to protect Inderji with lots of love.Orissa happened
> > because a 80 year old revered person along with aged persons was
> > shot dead, not because of vague comments. Further Inderji in his
> > glib posts with occassional ghalib quotes gets away with sedition,
> > but being apologists to secularism, we always tolerate. When he
> > says --"what is sacred to you, need not be sacred for him," the
> > secular credentials stand totally exposed.
> >
> >  For me, what is sacred for him, may not be sacred, but i will not
> > ridicule that feel of sacredness. That is tolerent human being in
> > me. But he not only prefers to ridicule and Aarti for her love is
> > prepared to chastise others to be tolerent of his posts which at
> > times are games of dividing the citizens on yardstick of caste and
> > faith, support to separatists tinged with ghalib's quoates.?
> >
> >  So, just to get him a feel of what it means to hurt others of the
> > social ills the two incidents are given, not that in other
> > communities the events of such magbitude do not happen, but priests
> > in our society have no right of fathwas.
> >
> >    If you like the circumsized cock it is your choice, but it does
> > not give right to you to keep mum when that person ridicules what
> > you consider as good and sacred. Tolerence does not mean that Inder
> > can ridicule everything that is sacred for hindu to please his
> > bosses in power. When he talks of caste discrimination, he seems to
> > overlook the ills in other faiths and communities and faiths, with
> > humans in every community, the faults are there in all the faiths.
> > Let us try to figure out at reforms from our homes first, as
> > charity begins at home, but it does not give any moral high for a
> > person like Inder salim to talk up above from clouds.! It is for
> > this reason, that i gave the incidents for him to reflect on the
> > role of fathwas, let him respond, if he wants a decent debate, but
> > that does not mean we should take his intolerence in our strides.?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Aarti Sethi <aarti.sethi at gmail.com>
> > Date: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:05 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] HARAM
> > To: radhikarajen at vsnl.net
> > Cc: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>, reader-list at sarai.net
> >
> >> radhika again you talk in unsubstantiated and vague generalities
> >> which are
> >> neither here nor there and only betray your prejudice. Do you wish
> >> me to
> >> quote incidents of the patriarchy inherent in Hindu society? I
> >> assure you I
> >> can at great length. Really this is getting us nowhere.
> >>
> >> regs
> >> A
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:10 PM, <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> With more love,
> >>>      Inderji,
> >>>    a visual which showed the father in law defending having sex
> >> with his
> >>> daughter in law, fit to be his daughter did not make me smile,
> >> felt sad,
> >>> even saddened  by the fathwa that followed the incident
> >>>      .A girl of hardly thirteen years married off to a "shaikh"
> >> of 67 years
> >>> of age, in Hyderabad, weeping at the airport before the flight
> >> took off,made
> >>> me sad, not laugh as the nikah was legal, meher was good.
> >>>
> >>> Regards.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
> >>> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:38 pm
> >>> Subject: [Reader-list] HARAM
> >>> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> >>>
> >>>> the one word comment  HARAM ( illegitimate ) on the following
> >> you tube
> >>>> Nizamuddin no. at Ghalib's Mazar  ( a fragment of complete
> >> song )
> >>>> made me smile,  unlike those who start rioting ( in Orirsa ) after
> >>>> reading something about Pandav Putras and some other deities
> >> similar> > to them in origin.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNaFxUPaDg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> just click the above
> >>>> love
> >>>> is
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> http://indersalim.livejournal.com
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