[Reader-list] HARAM

[Nazneen Anand Shamsi]

Dear Monica,

I completely agree with you that reader-list is as much a space that belongs
to its members as it belongs to sarai. And NO it is not sarai's
responsibility alone to provide guidelines for engagement, howsoever, in the
absence of any other initiative forthcoming, we expect sarai to at least set
the ball rolling.

Otherwise, I can clearly see exchanges like this one heading towards
non-resolution of this issue, for lack of any response. And we will
comfortably lapse into our individual siliences. Till someone else pokes too
hard. Which would then be again, responded by a knee-jerk reaction.

Clearly I am at a loss of words!

Best

Nazo

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Monica Narula <monica at sarai.net> wrote:

> Dear Nazneen,
>
> I suggest that we all write in suggestions of what can be 'shared rules' of
> conversation. What you say is true - there is no way to keep people out. Nor
> is that really of interest. The more important thing is to be able to -
> together, all the members of the list - be able to create a public space of
> dialogue and engagement. One can, and has, requested people not to flame, to
> maintain civility, to respect the idea of a public conversation and not
> reduce a thread to one liner remarks for quick victory, to not make ad
> hominem attacks, and so on
>
> However, that obviously hasn't worked. At an earlier occasion, some list
> members were requested to take 2 weeks off from writing and let others, and
> other conversations, enter while they took a breather, but in due course of
> time the tone of the postings was the same again.
>
> The bigger point i would like to raise - Is keeping a public forum a space
> of conversation only the responsibility of the person/group who provided the
> space for the forum? is it not a matter for all those in the space to
> reflect and act on?
>
> Maybe everyone can write in with ideas? suggestions?
>
> best
> M
>
> Monica Narula
> Raqs
> Sarai-CSDS
> 29 Rajpur Road
> Delhi 110 054
> www.raqsmediacollective.net
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>
>
> On 29-Sep-08, at 4:49 PM, Nazneen Anand Shamsi wrote:
>
>  Dear Monica,
>>
>> i respect your decision. I also feel sad at what happened. Radhikarajen
>> should not have wrote what he did.I take your decision today to expel one
>> of
>> our list member as an opportunity, to plead once again. Should we not have
>> regulations, even if they are not 'imposed' by Sarai? How will you
>> prohibit
>> the one whom you expel by not becoming a member of the reader list by
>> using
>> an alias? How will you regulate content? How will you stop this absolutely
>> unacceptable form of exchange? I understand these questions are as much
>> for
>> you to think as it is for me or any one else who desires the good of
>> reader-list.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Nazo
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:06 PM, S. Jabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  One reason: If you like the circumsized cock it is your choice, but it
>>> does
>>>
>>>
>>>  From: Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:52:17 +0500
>>>> To: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] HARAM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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