[Reader-list] Manmohan singh and elections.?

[Kshmendra Kaul]

Dear Rakesh
 
Like you, I have no great regard for Advani. I have no regard for him. In fact I consider Anti-India any such ideology which tries to bring about a divide amongst the people of India. Hindutvaism is one such contemptible and dangerous movement.
 
That is not the point though.
 
The question that you have rightly raised is whether it is ethical for words or acts to be ascribed to anyone without there being any evidence for it. No it is not. But on this List we have that happening repeatedly. And such people get away with it. (it was not that I did not register your earlier mail asking for my exchanges with another person to stop, but it was the ethics involved that were to be sorted out and still have to be) 
 
An interesting defence has been put up by Anupam about calling a spade a spade (which incidentally used to be at one time a racially derogratory word) which is a nothingness if it was meant to be evidence.
 
Also amusing is his counter-questioning about how many times has this one or that one been to this place or that place.
 
That makes me wonder:
 
- how many times have people who comment on Kashmir or Palestine or Iraq or Afghanistan or Nandigram or Kandhamal (as just some examples) been to those places
 
This is in no way meant to question Anupam's knowledge about Assam or doubt his very obvious heartfelt sinceritity  and concern for Assam.
 
Kshmendra
  

--- On Mon, 4/13/09, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:

From: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Manmohan singh and elections.?
To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 7:07 PM

by the way I want Rajen to answer.. HOW MANY TIMES HAS HE BEEN TO ASSAM?

On 4/13/09, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> dear rakesh,
>
> frankly, i dont give a damn. since, there have been so much talk about
> calling a spade, a spade. I just did that. it is from my presence in the
> field (meaning the exact location) that i speak what i speak. it is only
> when you sit in cushy room full of books stinking knowledge and all such
> things, you would care about who is to be accused or who is to be spared.
it
> is called arm chair intellectualism in a common man's parlance. all i
can
> say is that Congress over the past five years in assam has brought much
good
> to its people than what it did previously. it was a realisation and it is
> communally a very conducive atmosphere for religions to grow and flourish.
> so please leave the north east. these concerns are fake. no one gives two
> hoots to what a bangladeshi immigrant goes through while crossing the
> borders in boat full of pineaaples bribing the BSF and BDR officials. how
> several people take advantage of his situation. my experience, again is
from
> the field not from some book.
>
> thank you. i wish to speak no more on this.
> anupam
>
>
>  On 4/13/09, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Anupam  ji
>>
>> Accusing an administration for its' alleged mishandling of the
blasts (or
>> even carrying out themselves) can't tantamount to openly
supporting one's
>> own party workers to indulge in mayhem and violence. It is certainly
>> possible that Advani may have known that after his speech violence
would
>> take place. It is also possible that he may have asked for it
privately, and
>> then the plot may have been put in practice.
>>
>> However, since there is no proof for either of this, it certainly
can't be
>> said legally that Advani exhorted his workers to indulge in violence,
unless
>> there is any of his statement in public which means so, or there is
any of
>> his actions in private (caught by someone and made public), which
resulted
>> in the violence you are talking about.
>>
>> I certainly don't have any great regard for Mr. Advani (except
that he did
>> highlight appeasement, but its meaning as he points out is very
wrong). But
>> to accuse him like this is stretching the story too far.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rakesh
>>
>
>
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