[Reader-list] Fw: Lets be clear first

[subhrodip sengupta]

this is not a propaganda or a manifesto but simple ideas i'd like to comment or share!



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From: subhrodip sengupta <sub_sengupta at yahoo.co.in>
To: Readers list Yousuf Sarai. <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Monday, 20 April, 2009 10:11:53 PM
Subject: Lets be clear first




Words and Identity:
I think one has to proceed step by step while I was talking about the modus operandi of riots caused during rathajatra, some people said the reverse also happens. Indeed is that for how long can human society accept any purpoted harm other than self defence? Whether 'Hindu' means a specific belief or community. If you say community and define some specific groups your opponent and restrict yourself unless they surrender, then you are not 'open'. If due to some mishap, the word is used to define Ancientism or some specific faith within the country, a set of rules you can not choose from example visit any other Nation,even if you have more interests in your motherland, then they are Fascist! You know the worst part all these crimes, the filth from any side prove one thing ------ This is again the age old struggle for the Nation as much extensive and deep as possible, certainly NOT for it's people. Fight by commoners would be revolution, and thats on
 nobodie's agenda. This may not be in interest of descendants or present, but definitely a source of power, a large economy and worlds thir largest population, and seventh largest territory!And none is ready to accept one thing To ERR iS HUMAN, Human Beings commit crime and before that they could belong to any faith or party, by hiding them we malign the entire community. By continuously denying or worse, resorting to Chauvinism, HUm Kab tak Chup baithenge, WE CRIMINALISE THE SYSTEM, which must put an end to wrongdoers, A BAD SYSTEM IS RISKY TO ITSELF A BAD KING IS NEVER RISKY TO THE SYSTEM. If your leader is corrupted, remove him, at least you can do the same to followers instead of defending and denying. Thats where we find it difficult to believe every word you said and try to find hidden implications or conspiracies. 
What is individual is a set of character unique or at most differentiable. By a conglomerate or a group we can not deny individuality by defn. Or avoid the notion altogether for a and b is same as not a implies b or that not a but b is true. Thus after this how can sum deny indivuduality. all the higher forms of reduction and deduction are based on this or it'll be better : do not define traits and let them evolve uniquely, at least let conditions show which are a basis for truth, like V is true under a set of conditions. By meaning double words, like why not replace hindutva by bharatiyata, which is also a hindu word but not restricted to one faith. we are actually wanting to wage a battle for the nation never the people who reside in it, because some of them are not us but traitors, similarly some would think the same for their own people. There are no absolutes, things must be taken with a pinch of salt and at times a lot of pepper too.. By dwelving
 in History and accusing each other of murder we are branding each of us as murderers. Either Say we want Democracy or Say we do not. Trust me, democracy of billions may be a bluff. But state this & what you intend to do next, to the people, how it will change thir life, for rights and betterment can be done by a dictator and human rights and culture smashed brutally by an elected setup. Where both PM candidates say the same thing which they claim is unique is dangerous and they say a truth fighting for nation, not it's people. Under certain conditions only when you recognise it implies else it does not. The criminal must be identified but by the Society and not King & off course action speaks louder than words, specially where unconstitutional and non-enforable remarks are made. The Better Evil game is subjective and as long as vested interests argue for them, they always do, ETERNAL, till now no synthesis, or resolution is reached. So Lets avoid
 it.What we find is a partial synthesis in which a false convergence, false because conflict goes on the same topic, rather than total where new arenas would be sought. This is following kalecki, a political Eyewash.



On election eve where a lot of things are being said including the precarious presumption VOTE!

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