[Reader-list] BOYCOTT SECTARIAN AGENDAS

[Pheeta Ram]

*Dear Murali,

You wrote:

"*My contention is that we have not made any attempts to
understand *our own* heritage, culture, tradition and scriptures and I would
prefer to try understand what we already have and then try attempting
*others*.*"*
Would you mind telling us what is "OUR OWN" heritage, culture, tradition
that we have baked in
"OUR OWN" kitchen and what is the heritage, culture, tradition of "OTHERS"?

Had you been able to grasp the "weight" and "complexity" of each of these
categories you certainly would not have blurted them out in one single
breath like some* mantra*.

It's a pity that you have  such a narrow and SICK understanding of
"heritage, culture and tradition."
If you begin all your explorations with categories like "our own" and
"others" i wonder if you would ever be able
to grasp even the so called "spirit" of y"our own" scriptures.

Purge your language first, its here that you make or unmake yourself. These
are not just words, they turn into
muscles in our body and neurons of our brains.

Be-aware.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Kshmenmdra,
> This is the procedure
> "(iv) Pranayama: Pranayamas are well known breathing exercises for
> harmonizing the breathing. A simple pranakarÌana pranayama is performed in
> the pancakarma after enunciating the following mantras. For this, inhale
> slowly at a steady pace with a feeling that the prana shakti of Gayatri
> inspissated around is being drawn-in with the breath. Hold the breath for
> few seconds to absorb this mahaprana that is sparkling like immense glow of
> the rising sun… Now exhale the breath at the same pace with a firm belief
> that the impurities and vile assimilation from inside are being expelled
> forever. Hold the breath out for few seconds with a feeling that the
> mahaprana is spreading out in the infinity after destroying the vices and
> sins inside. Repeat this cycle three times. The duration of holding the
> breath is normally maintained as half that of inhalation/ exhalation in
> each
> cycle….
>
> The Mantras:
> Oan Bhah, Oan Bhuvah, Oan Swah, Oan Mahah, Oan Janah, Oan Tapah, Oan Satyan
> |
> Oan Tatsaviturvarenyan Bhargo Devasya Dhimahi Dhiyo Yonah Pracodayat ||
> Oan Apo Jyotih Rasoamratan Brahn Bhur Bhuvah Swah Oan ||"
>
> Reference :
> http://gayatri.awgp.org/SimpleandEffectivedailypracticeofGayatri/
>
> As regards Vuzoo or Namaaz that is also a way of living and is a choice
> left
> to the individual. My contention is that we have not made any attempts to
> understand our own heritage, culture, tradition and scriptures and I would
> prefer to try understand what we already have and then try attempting
> others. Our very own Vedas is vast and has enough scientific material,
> which
> has been best utilised by the germans.
>
>
> Regards,
> V Murali
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear Murali
> >
> > Thank you for the quoting from the Website. I noticed though that these
> are
> > not the words of Satya Sai Baba. His words are reproduced in quotes.
> >
> > As far as I am aware, for a Mantra to be a Pranayamic exercise, the
> > recitation of words would have to be matched with specified timings,
> > intensity (and source of breath) linked with Inhalation, Retention and
> > Exhalation (Puraka, Kumbhaka, Rechaka).
> >
> > As far as I am aware, there is no such regime for the Gayatri Mantra.
> >
> > You did not comment on my suggestion. Let me repeat it:
> >
> > """""""" While on this topic, why not introduce Vuzoo and Namaaz too into
> > your proposed regime?
> >
> >          Vuzoo is an excellent habit for maintaining basic cleanliness
> and
> > Namaaz entails a set of postures in which (fascinatingly) you can see a
> > digest of various Yogic Aasanas.""""""
> >
> > Kshmendra
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On *Sun, 8/2/09, Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] BOYCOTT SECTARIAN AGENDAS
> > To: "Kshmendra Kaul" <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 5:20 PM
> >
> >
> >  Dear Kshmedra,
> > "Touted" I dont need to as I am not marketing it or its concept. I just
> > shared what I have come to understand of it.
> > "Exercise of chanting Gayatri is essentially Pranayama, hence breathing
> is
> > regulated, chanellised and perfected." This is a quote from " This a
> quote
> > from "http://www.saibabaforbeginners.com/gayatri.html"
> >  Thanks and Regards,
> > V Murali
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com<
> http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kshmendra2005@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>   Dear Murali
> >>
> >> This is the first time I have heard Gayatri Mantra being touted as a
> >> 'breathing exercise'. Could you please elaborate on that?
> >>
> >> If you were to speak about the benefits of Pranayamic exercises
> >> (especially Ujjayi Pranayam), that would make some sense. But Gayatri
> Mantra
> >> as a 'breathing exercise'????
> >>
> >> While on this topic, why not introduce Vuzoo and Namaaz too into your
> >> proposed regime?
> >>
> >> Vuzoo is an excellent habit for maintaining basic cleanliness and Namaaz
> >> entails a set of postures in which (fascinatingly) you can see a digest
> of
> >> various Yogic Aasanas.
> >>
> >> Kshmendra
> >>
> >> --- On *Sat, 8/1/09, Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com<
> http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=murali.chalam@gmail.com>
> >> >* wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com<
> http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=murali.chalam@gmail.com>>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] BOYCOTT SECTARIAN AGENDAS
> >> To: "Pheeta Ram" <pheeta.ram at gmail.com<
> http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pheeta.ram@gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net<
> http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reader-list@sarai.net>
> >> >
> >> Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 12:00 PM
> >>
> >> Dear Anupam,
> >> Dear Anupam,
> >>
> >> The issue of uniformity has still not been addressed. A burkha clad girl
> >> in
> >> a school cannot be questioned and if done, the media and the entire
> >> pseudo-seculars go all out to  call it hindu fanaticism.
> >>
> >> Atma or the soul, life after death and re-birth are concepts which is
> >> their
> >> in most faiths. Moreover the Gaytri mantra is also a breathing exercise
> as
> >> the stanzas repeated in its correct form has set timings to control
> >> breath.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> V Murali
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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