[Reader-list] BOYCOTT SECTARIAN AGENDAS

Mon Aug 3 12:38:55 IST 2009

Dear

The Vedas, Upanishads, the epic are all, which I am proud to call our own
and those are so vast that a life time is not enough. There has to be a
start somewhere and as I said I would rather start with those rather than
pick on everything and understanding nothing.

I would rather prefer to live a way of living which is to my liking without
infringing or affecting  others. As regards my capabilities, I would take
your judgement as a positive comment and strive to better myself.

Regards,
V Murali
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Pheeta Ram <pheeta.ram at gmail.com> wrote:

> *Dear Murali,
>
> You wrote:
>
> "*My contention is that we have not made any attempts to
> understand *our own* heritage, culture, tradition and scriptures and I
> would
> prefer to try understand what we already have and then try attempting
> *others*.*"*
> Would you mind telling us what is "OUR OWN" heritage, culture, tradition
> that we have baked in
> "OUR OWN" kitchen and what is the heritage, culture, tradition of "OTHERS"?
>
> Had you been able to grasp the "weight" and "complexity" of each of these
> categories you certainly would not have blurted them out in one single
> breath like some* mantra*.
>
> It's a pity that you have  such a narrow and SICK understanding of
> "heritage, culture and tradition."
> If you begin all your explorations with categories like "our own" and
> "others" i wonder if you would ever be able
> to grasp even the so called "spirit" of y"our own" scriptures.
>
> Purge your language first, its here that you make or unmake yourself. These
> are not just words, they turn into
> muscles in our body and neurons of our brains.
>
> Be-aware.
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Kshmenmdra,
>> This is the procedure
>> "(iv) Pranayama: Pranayamas are well known breathing exercises for
>> harmonizing the breathing. A simple pranakarÌana pranayama is performed in
>> the pancakarma after enunciating the following mantras. For this, inhale
>> slowly at a steady pace with a feeling that the prana shakti of Gayatri
>> inspissated around is being drawn-in with the breath. Hold the breath for
>> few seconds to absorb this mahaprana that is sparkling like immense glow
>> of
>> the rising sun… Now exhale the breath at the same pace with a firm belief
>> that the impurities and vile assimilation from inside are being expelled
>> forever. Hold the breath out for few seconds with a feeling that the
>> mahaprana is spreading out in the infinity after destroying the vices and
>> sins inside. Repeat this cycle three times. The duration of holding the
>> breath is normally maintained as half that of inhalation/ exhalation in
>> each
>> cycle….
>>
>> The Mantras:
>> Oan Bhah, Oan Bhuvah, Oan Swah, Oan Mahah, Oan Janah, Oan Tapah, Oan
>> Satyan
>> |
>> Oan Tatsaviturvarenyan Bhargo Devasya Dhimahi Dhiyo Yonah Pracodayat ||
>> Oan Apo Jyotih Rasoamratan Brahn Bhur Bhuvah Swah Oan ||"
>>
>> Reference :
>> http://gayatri.awgp.org/SimpleandEffectivedailypracticeofGayatri/
>>
>> As regards Vuzoo or Namaaz that is also a way of living and is a choice
>> left
>> to the individual. My contention is that we have not made any attempts to
>> understand our own heritage, culture, tradition and scriptures and I would
>> prefer to try understand what we already have and then try attempting
>> others. Our very own Vedas is vast and has enough scientific material,
>> which
>> has been best utilised by the germans.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> V Murali
>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Murali
>> >
>> > Thank you for the quoting from the Website. I noticed though that these
>> are
>> > not the words of Satya Sai Baba. His words are reproduced in quotes.
>> >
>> > As far as I am aware, for a Mantra to be a Pranayamic exercise, the
>> > recitation of words would have to be matched with specified timings,
>> > intensity (and source of breath) linked with Inhalation, Retention and
>> > Exhalation (Puraka, Kumbhaka, Rechaka).
>> >
>> > As far as I am aware, there is no such regime for the Gayatri Mantra.
>> >
>> > You did not comment on my suggestion. Let me repeat it:
>> >
>> > """""""" While on this topic, why not introduce Vuzoo and Namaaz too
>> into
>> > your proposed regime?
>> >
>> >          Vuzoo is an excellent habit for maintaining basic cleanliness
>> and
>> > Namaaz entails a set of postures in which (fascinatingly) you can see a
>> > digest of various Yogic Aasanas.""""""
>> >
>> > Kshmendra
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On *Sun, 8/2/09, Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com>* wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] BOYCOTT SECTARIAN AGENDAS
>> > To: "Kshmendra Kaul" <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
>> > Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> > Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 5:20 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >  Dear Kshmedra,
>> > "Touted" I dont need to as I am not marketing it or its concept. I just
>> > shared what I have come to understand of it.
>> > "Exercise of chanting Gayatri is essentially Pranayama, hence breathing
>> is
>> > regulated, chanellised and perfected." This is a quote from " This a
>> quote
>> > from "http://www.saibabaforbeginners.com/gayatri.html"
>> >  Thanks and Regards,
>> > V Murali
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
>> <http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kshmendra2005@yahoo.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>   Dear Murali
>> >>
>> >> This is the first time I have heard Gayatri Mantra being touted as a
>> >> 'breathing exercise'. Could you please elaborate on that?
>> >>
>> >> If you were to speak about the benefits of Pranayamic exercises
>> >> (especially Ujjayi Pranayam), that would make some sense. But Gayatri
>> Mantra
>> >> as a 'breathing exercise'????
>> >>
>> >> While on this topic, why not introduce Vuzoo and Namaaz too into your
>> >> proposed regime?
>> >>
>> >> Vuzoo is an excellent habit for maintaining basic cleanliness and
>> Namaaz
>> >> entails a set of postures in which (fascinatingly) you can see a digest
>> of
>> >> various Yogic Aasanas.
>> >>
>> >> Kshmendra
>> >>
>> >> --- On *Sat, 8/1/09, Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com<
>> http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=murali.chalam@gmail.com>
>> >> >* wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com<
>> http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=murali.chalam@gmail.com>>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] BOYCOTT SECTARIAN AGENDAS
>> >> To: "Pheeta Ram" <pheeta.ram at gmail.com<
>> http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pheeta.ram@gmail.com>
>> >> >
>> >> Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net<
>> http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reader-list@sarai.net>
>> >> >
>> >> Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 12:00 PM
>> >>
>> >> Dear Anupam,
>> >> Dear Anupam,
>> >>
>> >> The issue of uniformity has still not been addressed. A burkha clad
>> girl
>> >> in
>> >> a school cannot be questioned and if done, the media and the entire
>> >> pseudo-seculars go all out to  call it hindu fanaticism.
>> >>
>> >> Atma or the soul, life after death and re-birth are concepts which is
>> >> their
>> >> in most faiths. Moreover the Gaytri mantra is also a breathing exercise
>> as
>> >> the stanzas repeated in its correct form has set timings to control
>> >> breath.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> V Murali
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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