[Reader-list] universal civil code

[taraprakash]

Thank Mr. Malik  for this input, and also thanks Rakesh for forwarding the 
text of the act.

The point of discussion is that if a certain community wants not to be 
governed by this act and wants its members to follow the law of the "khat 
panchayat" should they be allowed on the line of the minorities who are 
allowed to have their personal civil codes? What if these communities do not 
want to be considered as Hindus?




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A.K. Malik" <akmalik45 at yahoo.com>
To: "taraprakash" <taraprakash at gmail.com>
Cc: "Sarai List" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] universal civil code


> Dear Mr Taraprakash,
>                     IN almost all the cases there is no legal bar on the 
> marriages taking place. The Panchayats are putting their force on the 
> young couples unnecessarily like a person can't marry a girl from the same 
> village, same caste, same Gotra etc.The Hindu Marriage Act clearly defines 
> where it is prohibited.The Govt in power just can't dare take any action 
> because it is a very powerful and united community wtih lot of vote power 
> which can make or mar the chances of a Govt formation especially in 
> Haryana.
> Regards
>
> (A.K.MALIK)
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/12/09, taraprakash <taraprakash at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: taraprakash <taraprakash at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Reader-list] universal civil code
>> To: "Rakesh Iyer" <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>, "Murali V" 
>> <murali.chalam at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 5:51 PM
>> I believe we need to have a greater
>> debate on this issue. Khat panchayats
>> have added a new dimension to the debate on Civil code.
>> Should the jaats be
>> forced to follow marriage related laws under Hindu
>> Undivided Family act? I
>> would love to hear some views on this.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rakesh Iyer" <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
>> To: "Murali V" <murali.chalam at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Crime and No Punishment:
>> Malegaon Blast
>> AccusedGet a Respite
>>
>>
>> > Dear Murali
>> >
>> > Great idea, provided:
>> >
>> > 1) The civil code will be introduced based on points
>> of public discussion,
>> > after having heard out all views, and implemented only
>> if it is approved
>> > through a referendum. All people of India must be
>> involved, as it concerns
>> > them in particular, and must be encouraged to bring
>> their choice to public
>> > notice through means of referendum.
>> >
>> > 2) The civil code must be looked at every 15-20 years
>> to see if things
>> > have
>> > to be changed or not (in suit to current realities).
>> For example, 20 years
>> > ago gay rights may not have been supported to the
>> extent they are today.
>> > That has to be recognized. The code must also be
>> debated upon periodically
>> > (not necessarily for changing) and on special
>> occasions if changes have to
>> > be brought.
>> >
>> > Infact, such a civil code will be most useful to
>> minorities, unlike the
>> > way
>> > it is portrayed by Muslim fundamentalists. And the BJP
>> should be
>> > criticized
>> > for not having thought about it when they were in
>> power (although what
>> > form
>> > would that code have taken is something speculative).
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Rakesh
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