[Reader-list] What if Jaswant was a Muslim

Wed Aug 26 13:24:57 IST 2009

If at all it has survived, even as a way of life, it is because of colors that gave a form to this so-called way of life. These colors were more than a rainbow could hold. A large percentage of these colors have been wiped out and a single saffron color is standing on the graves of lost colors and suppressing whatever colors that remain. 

Domination of a single color means other colors are not free- they can not express themselves and if they don't - you don't see them, naturally the dominator becomes the one and the only supreme being! I now understand why Pakistan is prone to dictatorships or for that matter any country that is prone to dictatorship (Left/Right or centre)

Denial of colors is dangerous for India and to Hinduism or Mural's "way of living" 

Thanks Inder for:

"Jinnah painted only one canvas in his life. The creation of Pakistan,with one colour only"

"I dont know which way Jinnah would have given free hand to other smaller artists to fill their spaces with their own colours"

"India started with three colours at least, and Hussain added colours to this unique Nehur's dream"

I don't think I have go beyond these words to understand freedom

Chaithanya

> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:39:22 +0530
> From: murali.chalam at gmail.com
> To: c.anupam at gmail.com
> CC: reader-list at sarai.net
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] What if Jaswant was a Muslim
> 
> Hinduism is not a religion, but a way of living. It doesnt require to
> compete with any religion as there can be no competition between
> apples and oranges.
> 
> Hinduism has survived for several thousands of years and has even
> survived during the mughal onslaught.
> 
> The doctrines available in hinduism is so vast, that no one can claim
> mastery over it and therefore pass judgement of what it can offer or
> not offer.
> 
> Regards,
> V Murali
> 
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:15 PM, anupam chakravartty<c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Firstly, Hinduism is a territorial concept, and as a religion has nothing
> > to offer in the international arena  in order to compete with other dominant
> > religious philosophies of  the world, i.e. Islam and  Christianity, and
> > secondly,  as a theocratic state  it could not survive  in the wake of the
> > overwhelming  Muslim population and  the oil-rich Islamic states in the
> > world."
> >
> > I can understand Dr Sherwani's frustrations with nationalist (read Hindu)
> > chauvinism. however, there are pitfalls in his argument. the reader is
> > requested not to generalise from the following statements because the
> > argument against the bigotry of hindu zealots cannot be seen without keeping
> > in my mind how colonialism hardened the religious identities co-existing in
> > this part of the world. yes i completely blame colonialism and our inability
> > to reform ourselves (not in the european light) to be the cause for the
> > partition. also because large corporate houses such as birlas were funding
> > this whole project of partition which in a letter to M.K. Gandhi clearly
> > cited that that "if would be beneficial if the division happens,". because
> > as soon you call one organised religion, territorial, others also also fall
> > in that same category. there are glaring examples. i need not specify more.
> >
> > I think Inder has done the needful by invoking Hussain and also by citing
> > Chandramohan, who was bullied by a bunch of maniacs because of his art. this
> > clearly demonstrates that one hand, nation building is a critical activity,
> > lets not get into mess of this blame game as orchestrated by the saffron
> > turn coats. it was bound to happen. and i am very glad that it has happened.
> >
> > thanks
> > anupam
> >
> >
> > On 8/25/09, Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Rakesh
> >>
> >> you are partly right, although examples are slippery.
> >> I guess, Hussain as ' Dhak Dhak girl like Madhuri Dixt' ( as Geeta
> >> Kapur  explained while talking on Hussain's exile ) had penetrated the
> >> phyche of Shiv Sena/BajragDal/BJP combine to the extent that even
> >> Hindu Gods themselves coming nude on earth would be stoned to death by
> >> these goons and lunatic fringe  of our society. Perhpas, the student
> >> artists Chandramohan was seen as extention of Hussain, as antoher limb
> >> of  other Vishnu, to be amputated, and so will be all the artists if
> >> they dare to draw a Hindu deity in in future.
> >>
> >> Well, here ,  jaswant's Jinnah is  completely moulded with a different
> >> aim and objective. Jaswant, perhpas, used Jinnah to demystify
> >> Patel/Nehru and Gandhi to some extent. I have not read the book and
> >> neither i have any wilingness to read the book written by a stupid
> >> politician wirter. There must be other reasons for his ouster. We all
> >> know, that Advani praised Jinnah as well, and with what logic he
> >> ousted Jaswant? It looks like a paty of dacoits who can kill their
> >> friend after 30 years of friendship , just for writing a book. If he
> >> was so intelligent, he should have realized the cannibal in Advani
> >> long before.
> >>
> >> We have  many reasons to celebrate Hussain, although i dont rate him
> >> as great artist, but with Jinnah we have none to celebrate. As Shyam
> >> Bengal too said, that we have no other way to understand Jinnah, as
> >> someone who masterminded the idea of partition ....even if there were
> >> valid reasons against arrogant Nehru/Patel combine
> >>
> >> Jinnah painted only one canvas in his life. The creation of Pakistan,
> >> with one colour only.  India started with three colours at least, and
> >> Hussain added colours to this unique Nehur's dream. Here Jaswant
> >> rightly points out that Nehru did not let Jinnah paint the entire
> >> canvas himself. I dont know which way Jinnah would have given free
> >> hand to other smaller artists to fill their spaces with their own
> >> colours, given the presences of hundreded of  powerful princes in
> >> India, it would have been loot for the space of limited canvas, At
> >> that time, Nehru was right then, but it is only now that we feel that
> >> decentralization  of India is a better option.
> >>
> >> Mountbatten, as  British policy, i guess would have loved to see a
> >> horrid mess of colours as free independant India. The blood red of the
> >> partition is on their hands as well. as much as it is on the hand of
> >> Jinnah, Nehur and patel.
> >>
> >> Hussain is a political project, which Jaswant should have taken rather
> >> than Jinnnah. But he is illitrate to realize the important of Art and
> >> culture in life. Some within BJP like Arun Shourie might be thinking
> >> of importance of Muslim votes for party but i guess helping return of
> >> Hussain is most crucial to India, than counting the bones of Jinnah in
> >> his grave.
> >>
> >> with love
> >> inder salim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Rakesh Iyer<rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Dear Inder
> >> >
> >> > In that case he would have faced a fate similar to that faced by the MSU
> >> > student in Vadodara at the hands of the VHP in 2006.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Rakesh
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
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