[Reader-list] Fwd: In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: ‘enforce hijab in college’

Murali V murali.chalam at gmail.com
Fri Aug 28 13:57:09 IST 2009


Can you specify where and what code?

Regards,
V Murali

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:54 PM, anupam chakravartty<c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:
> Moreover, in garb of Hindu culture dress code is similaly "imposed" in
> several colleges and institutions. What do you have to say about that?
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Rashneek,
>> Wearing a hijab should not ideally be your problem. Let the people speak
>> for themselves.
>> -anupam
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:36 PM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Havent the barbarians already been there..like Bitta karate who pissed on
>>> people after he killed them.and those too who some fondly called Sahab who
>>> rape and chop nurses.
>>> and then their  apologists .....
>>>
>>> rashneek
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sanjay Kak <kaksanjay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Wonder why this list feels like a starter's block sometimes, for a race
>>> > where everybody is planning to run a different length. You know, the
>>> 100m
>>> > sprint, the 400m, the 5000m, the marathon...
>>> > I mean look at us, here we are, already invoking fears of the
>>> "barbarians"
>>> > at the gate, of "mediveal obscrutanist religiou practices - soon
>>> flogging,
>>> > killing in football grounds and burning of girls schools"...
>>> >
>>> > While the particular Indian Express story, in a style we have all come
>>> to
>>> > recognise, having raised the alarm, attracted the attention of those
>>> > amongst
>>> > us whose nerves are on edge anyway, and triggered the sprinters, does a
>>> > consummate exercise in what I believe the Americans call 'covering ass'.
>>> > I quote the last paragraph of the story:
>>> > The Dangiwacha police have filed a case, and are looking at all angles,
>>> > including one unrelated to militancy. “We are exploring the possible
>>> > dimension of college rivalry,” said a senior officer who did not want to
>>> be
>>> > named. No militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the incident.
>>> The
>>> > separatists too have been silent, and are perhaps trying to ascertain if
>>> > militant groups were involved.
>>> >
>>> > Can we hold our horses, or have they bolted from the starters block?
>>> > Best
>>> > Sanjay Kak
>>> >
>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> > From: rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
>>> > Date: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing:
>>> > ‘enforce hijab in college’
>>> >  To: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
>>> > Cc: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dear Anupam,
>>> >
>>> > Well I am not confusing anything with anything.There is a history on
>>> this
>>> > network where people have called barbarians like Sikander Butshikan and
>>> > Syed
>>> > mohd.Hamdani divinely ordained dervishes and incidentally these are
>>> people
>>> > who claim to have Marxist if not Moaist ideologies.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > Rashneek
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, anupam chakravartty <
>>> c.anupam at gmail.com
>>> > >wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Dear Rashneek,
>>> > > "They would cleanse the society by imposing purity on the inhabitants
>>> and
>>> > > the sly shadows of Mao would cheer them and call them dervishes oops
>>> > > divinely ordained dervishes."
>>> > >
>>> > > I think you are confusing Talibanisation with Marxism and Maoism. If
>>> the
>>> > > so-called "armed" gunmen threatened the college principal, as the
>>> reports
>>> > > stated, to which he opposed and said:  "he would not be cowed by the
>>> > threat
>>> > > and would continue to do his work at the college" and also the fact he
>>> is
>>> > a
>>> > > specialist in greatest Islamic revivalist of our times, Sayyid Qutb
>>> (who
>>> > > the
>>> > > neo-liberal sorts think that because of his criticism of the American
>>> way
>>> > > of
>>> > > life has helped in shaping of al-qaeda) then there is an inherent
>>> > > contradiction in your claims about dervishes. here we have someone who
>>> is
>>> > > specialist, who is opposed to imposition of hijab. i think i would
>>> > > appreciate the principal's stand.
>>> > > - thanks
>>> > > anupam
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Dear All,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > A story done by Indian Express on the Islamist Icons(Robin Hoods of
>>> our
>>> > > > friends) imposing Hijab and threating Prinicipals of Colleges by
>>> > burning
>>> > > > their cars.
>>> > > > How I wonder would Taliban control the land that once infidelds
>>> lived
>>> > > > in.They would cleanse the society by imposing purity on the
>>> inhabitants
>>> > > and
>>> > > > the sly shadows of Mao would cheer them and call them dervishes oops
>>> > > > divinely ordained dervishes.Their divine powers derived from
>>> mediveal
>>> > > > obscrutanist religiou practices-soon flogging,killing in football
>>> > grounds
>>> > > > and burning of girls schools would be the order of day.And our
>>> Marxist
>>> > > > demi-icons would sing paeans to the piety of the new age dervishes.
>>> > > > It may also be worthwhile to mention that the leaders of the "azadi"
>>> > > today
>>> > > > have done exactly this when they "were a part of the armed
>>> > struggle".For
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > proponents of jihad and their supporters...from Riyaz Wani
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > >  In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: ‘enforce hijab in
>>> college’
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >  In the first such incident in the Valley since the decline of
>>> > militancy
>>> > > > started two years ago, masked gunmen waylaid the principal of a
>>> North
>>> > > > Kashmir college, destroyed his car, and gave him a three-day
>>> ultimatum
>>> > to
>>> > > > ensure the 3,000 girl students in his institution began wearing the
>>> > > hijab.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >  The principal, Muhammad Ashraf, a respected Islamic scholar, told
>>> The
>>> > > > Indian Express today that he would not be cowed by the threat and
>>> would
>>> > > > continue to do his work at the college.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >  Ashraf said seven men stopped his car — in which he was riding with
>>> > his
>>> > > > son
>>> > > > and a local acquaintance — near his village at Dangiwacha, and
>>> > > commandeered
>>> > > > the vehicle over a dirt track into a thicket of bushes. “They wore
>>> > masks
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > dark glasses and were heavily armed with Kalashnikovs, pistols and
>>> > > > grenades,” Ashraf said.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >  According to the principal, the men appeared to know a lot about
>>> him:
>>> > > that
>>> > > > he was a specialist on Sayyid Qutb — the Egyptian Islamist political
>>> > > > theorist and leading intellectual of the Muslim Brotherhood in the
>>> 50s
>>> > > and
>>> > > > 60s who is thought to be one of the philosophical progenitors of Al
>>> > Qaeda
>>> > > —
>>> > > > and that he had been trying to enforce discipline in his college.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > “You have taken some really good steps in the college like banning
>>> > > smoking
>>> > > > and cellphones. Now, you must do something that we want you to do.
>>> > > Enforce
>>> > > > an Islamic dress code for girl students,” Ashraf said the men told
>>> him.
>>> > > > They
>>> > > > gave him three days to carry out their diktat, failing which they
>>> would
>>> > > > “act”, they said.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Ashraf’s college, Degree College, Sopore, has around 7,000 students
>>> on
>>> > > its
>>> > > > rolls, 3,000 of whom are girls. It is among the largest colleges in
>>> the
>>> > > > state.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > “They told me that they had picked me to send a message to all other
>>> > > > schools
>>> > > > and colleges in the Valley in which girls study,” Ashraf said.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Perhaps to rattle the principal and send the message that they meant
>>> > > > business, the gunmen set his vehicle on fire. Ashraf and his
>>> companions
>>> > > > were
>>> > > > released after about two hours in captivity.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The Dangiwacha police have filed a case, and are looking at all
>>> angles,
>>> > > > including one unrelated to militancy. “We are exploring the possible
>>> > > > dimension of college rivalry,” said a senior officer who did not
>>> want
>>> > to
>>> > > be
>>> > > > named.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > No militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the incident. The
>>> > > > separatists too have been silent, and are perhaps trying to
>>> ascertain
>>> > if
>>> > > > militant groups were involved.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Senior Superintendent of Police Viplav Kumar said a hunt was on for
>>> the
>>> > > > gunmen. “We are trying our best. Hopefully, we will crack the case
>>> > soon,”
>>> > > > he
>>> > > > said.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-valley-gunmen-take-to-moral-policing-enforce-hijab-in-college/507208/0
>>> > > >
>>> > > > best
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --
>>> > > > Rashneek Kher
>>> > > > http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
>>> > > > http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Rashneek Kher
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>>> http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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